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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-07 06:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #2409 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2409 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-08 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you ever experienced real suicide?
My best friend committed suicide three years ago and then my partner did. Both suffered from severe cases of depression.
Be glad that you KNOW it was only a fake. Fakes can actually help and might prevent people from actually killing themselves.

Grieving about someone dying isn't the same as BEING DEAD because people are still dismissing depression as being overemotional or shit like that and only few people get actual help. The real victim is the dead person and I hate it when people make them the selfish antagonists.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-08 06:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Suicidal people are sick and need help. But I disagree with you about the people left behind never being victims. Like my friend who found his dad after he comitted suicide. He was eight, and that left scars.
thene: "I think it may be just as well to have a good understanding even with shades." (s.)

[personal profile] thene 2013-08-08 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm very sorry for your loss. However, I feel this comment is misdirected, because the lack of support for depressed people is a chronic problem that has nothing to do with the anger people in fandom feel about pseuicide, and there's zero evidence that pseuicide and actual depression or suicidal feelings are related to each other.

Fakes can actually help and might prevent people from actually killing themselves.

I'm not sure why you'd think that? How on earth could it help? 'Pseuicide' doesn't refer to faking a suicide but simply to pretending to be dead on the internet. The death of someone close to you is (I doubt this will surprise you) top of the list of life stressors that can induce depression and precipitate actual suicide, and on top of that damage there's the loss of trust once people find out they got faked. I'm not sure what hypothetical benefits you're saying would outweigh all this known harm and social destruction.

I'm glad I know my 'friend' wasn't really dead, yes. I'm also glad to have simultaneously discovered that he was never really my friend. I don't think he was depressed in the least; he showed no signs of depression but many, many signs of egomania. Pseuicide is not a phenomena that's been subject to much study AFAIK but you might find this article on Munchausens-Via-Internet interesting, as the two often go together.