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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-09 07:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #2411 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2411 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Supernatural/Jensen Ackles]


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[Mathias Lillmåns of Finntroll; Jonne Järvelä of Korpiklaani; Heri Joensen of Týr]


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[Welcome to Night Vale]


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[Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger, RP]


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[Bioshock Infinite: Burial at Sea]


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[NCIS]


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23. [SPOILERS for Strawberry Night, Strawberry Night: Invisible Rain]
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Notes:

Sorry about that, miscounted during the week and it was a bit longer than usual.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-10 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
Except framing Snapes actions as being "because" of his being bullied is a disservice to anyone who actually has been bullied.

He joined a genocidal terrorist group.

da

(Anonymous) 2013-08-10 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
Which Genocidal Terror Groups target young men for. They look for the disenfranchised, the already frustrated, the fucked up and the weird and feed them a load of bollocks about what they can really be if the black man/white man/red man/muggle/whatever wasn't keeping them down.

Snape was ripe for the plucking. Add in a pack of good looking, attractive young men who are never punished for their regular abuse, his inability to get ahead in life under his own power, and then toss in Lucius Malfoy as a very persuasive recruiter and bam! He's a in a genocidal terrorist group though he gives 0 fucks about it's belief system (especially considering he's a halfblood himself) because it gives him validation and a social structure that supports him when no one else would.

He was systematically preyed upon by older 'children' when adults should have been watching out for this shit (both the Marauders and Luciu, if in different directions.) They knew the Big V was recruiting, and should have kept and eye out and intervened to keep him from getting his hooks in their kids (and yes, that means the Slytherins too!) We get NO evidence at all that anyone did, in any case.

This is basic Criminal Justice 101 and Sociology 101 stuff. It's not hard to figure out why he was easy pickings for the DE's, and why he turned on the ideology he had no real investiture in just as quickly.

Does it make him a good person when he swaps side? No. Sticking with that side for twenty motherfucking years, despite everything, regretting his stupidity, and still being flawed and seeing it out to the end? Yeah, I'm okay with him dying and attaining hero status.

PS: Neville had emotional difficulties stemming from issues at home long before he came to Hogwarts, contributing to the ease with which Snape terrified him. That doesn't excuse Snape's behavior at all -- but does magnify its impact on the poor kid!

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2013-08-10 08:41 am (UTC)(link)
Snapes the reason Bella and the other found his parents and it's not like he didn't have some idea of what would happen, so Neville's homelife is *also* at least partical Snapes fault.

Also, none of what you said excuses or even properly explains joining a god damn genocidal terrorist group. I don't care how fucked up your homelife is "validation" isn't a fucking good enough reason for me to be even remotely more sympathetic to Snapes character.

In fact, it's worse. He can't even said he believed in the cause. He was just doing it to make himself feel better.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2013-08-10 10:08 am (UTC)(link)
Cults prey on the vulnerable. That's how they operate. And, like many genocidal terrorist groups, the Death Eaters were a cult centered around Voldemort. Do some research into how real-world terrorist networks recruit new members -- they look for people who have a lot of potential but have suffered unjustly, and promise them a place where they will belong and be appreciated and have an opportunity to create a world in which the (perceived or real) injustices they suffered will be eliminated. Religious cults do the same thing, though usually with less violence at the end of it. Terrorist and cult leaders are master manipulators who target people thirsty for positive reinforcement. This is reality.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2013-08-10 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think people argue that Neville wasn't predisposed to be more terrified of Snape than other students. I think what enrages people is that Snape, being a part of the reason Neville's home life turned out as it did, didn't refrain from preying on those emotional difficulties and ramping them up to the eleventieth degree in his class.

It's unlikely Snape gave 0 fucks about the belief system. Lily stopped being friends with him over that belief system (he'd been espousing it to other Muggleborn students and finally to herself).