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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-10 03:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #2412 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2412 ⌋

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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-08-10 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I am sure there is someone who can talk about this better than I can but I am going to say for your specific ones you mentioned.

Con dudes: Yes it could very much be they are playing Sam and Dean. He was uncomfortable but not hateful in any way

S&M dude at the club: If you were confronted in a dark alley by a big guy who looks like a biker and asks for your safeword, you would not even be a bit uncomfortable? Because I would be running far away.

The vampire: I assume you mean the one who turned him? Yeah, he gets told by a creepy guy in an alleyway where he is hunting a vampire, "Your pretty." He doesn't attack the guy or act disgusted. He says, "I don't play for your team" and turns away. I am just not seeing the homophobia.

Aaron: He got flustered but again didn't act disgusted in any way. To me it seemed more that he was thrown off his "FBI Investigation" game.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-10 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
That was my entire point. You can argue the specifics and context and shit, but the writers are still pretty much making it a running gag that Dean gets hit on by dudes, and he becomes uncomfortable. He has never had a completely positive interaction with a gay man.

I suppose I should have clarified that the last paragraph listing examples of Dean getting hit on by guys is an exclusive problem with the writers -- not Dean. However, the previous examples I listed still apply. Dean still has said things that are flat-out sexist and homophobic, and I dislike those aspects of his character -- though they make sense since, like another anon mentioned, he was raised learning offensive stereotypes and colloquialisms.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-08-10 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah. Apologies, I find it really hard to read italicized text for some reason. It is like my eyes go all wonky, so I could not read it as clearly as the rest.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-10 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, yeah, sorry about that! I would have fixed it, but I'm on anon.

Glad we've reached an understanding!