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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-14 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2416 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2416 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-15 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
I actually kind of find it funny. Merida gets so much flack for what she did at fourteen, but Ariel disobeys her father, gives up her voice to get legs, endangers her father's life and the entire ocean just because of a guy who she only knew one thing about (He's handsome!") AND she doesn't have to really learn anything, because she gets everything she wants in the end.
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[personal profile] iggy 2013-08-15 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much. The power of nostalgia glasses cannot be underestimated.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-15 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
just because of a guy who she only knew one thing about

People always say this, but I feel like it misses a huge chunk of her characterization. At the beginning of the movie she's already obsessed with humans and wanting to become one; Eric is just the snowflake that shifted the balance far enough to start an avalanche.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-15 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
It wasn't just about "a guy" for Ariel, though. She had always been fascinated by the surface world and wanted to be a part of it. And she had a father that thought it was appropriate to break all of her belongings when she disobeyed him. So yeah, Ariel's happy ending is that she gets out.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-15 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Your first point on Ariel I think is good, but King Triton's not meant to be taken as a bad guy. He saw humans as dangerous and likely took having a cave full of their things as a seriously dangerous thing itself. And even he doesn't think his outburst was appropriate. He would and does give up his freedom for hers when Ursula tries to enforce the contract. Ariel's happy ending isn't that she "gets out" (like Disney would be trying to imply her six other sisters are with an abusive parent??). Her happy ending is that she gets to be part of the world she's dreamed of a long time, with someone she loves and her family's understanding.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-15 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

Also, the sequel shows that Ariel did miss the ocean and her family after being away for so long and she was extremely happy when she was able to see her father again and the wall separating her from her people was destroyed (of course, this being a disney sequel I can understand why people would choose to ignore it. Still, it's difficult to claim that Ariel didn't love her father and that he didn't care greatly for her in return. Enough to eventually be happy for his daughter when she decided to live on land despite the fact that he had been previously convinced that humans had killed his wife and that they were monsters)