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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-15 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2417 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2417 ⌋

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Re: Well, true

(Anonymous) 2013-08-16 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
If you want to do away with tipping culture, the way to achieve that is to require restaurant owners to pay waitstaff a living wage (or at least the same minimum wage that workers in non-tipping industries are paid) -- not to let restaurant owners fire workers for accepting a tip. Think about the situation you're suggesting.

A customer, possibly assuming that their server is making $2.85 an hour plus tips, leaves a $5 bill on the table after their meal when they depart. The server now has to take that $5 bill to the manager and say something like, "A customer left this on the table for me because they thought I did a good job, but I know I'm not allowed to keep it, so I'll just give it to you, Sir."

Who, exactly, is demeaning the server in this situation?

Re: Well, true

(Anonymous) 2013-08-16 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Are you illiterate, read the article that got linked, the thing we've all been talking about.

And explaining they can't take a tip and placing it in a charity jar is not as demeaning as tipping, no.

Re: Well, true

(Anonymous) 2013-08-16 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Is it demeaning to haggle? Is it demeaning to pay based upon quality of services provided or goods produced? Is it demeaning to pay commission?

You wanna talk about "demeaning?" Let's talk about getting paid a wage that bears little resemblance to what you do and whether or not anyone benefits from it. That wage is determined by some random face who makes a metric fuckton of money off of what you do rather than off of what he or she can do him or herself.

Which situation would you prefer:
-getting paid for the actual results of your actual labor, or
-getting paid a base that has absolutely nothing to do with any actual results?

Would you rather work your ass off and be compensated for it, or work your ass off and get dick-all because OH you have a SALARY?

Re: Well, true

(Anonymous) 2013-08-16 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
"getting paid for the actual results of your actual labor, or"

>Tipping

Top kek. Read a book.

Re: Well, true

(Anonymous) 2013-08-16 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
Only the books that you approve of and that confirm the crap you already believe though, right?

Re: Well, true

(Anonymous) 2013-08-16 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT did read the article, and the restaurant owner in it compares being compensated for customer service to stripping. That's pretty demeaning all by itself.
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Re: Well, true

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-08-16 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
It's also insulting to strippers.

I mean is he anti-stripping? Because good luck with that

Or... does he want people to go to the strip club and not tip the dancer? Because paying some separate manager instead of the dancer sounds like I'm going to Jabba's Palace and she's some oppressed Twilek maiden

Re: Well, true

(Anonymous) 2013-08-16 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
No he's not saying that, would you stop being so intellectual dishonest because you know he's not saying that. Stripping is a job in which everyone involved goes in clearly appreciating that people are selling their sexuality, and the appearance of intimacy and human interaction.

Being a server absolutely shouldn't involved these things, because it's not necessary to the role.
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Re: Well, true

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-08-16 12:01 pm (UTC)(link)
So you only tip your server well if they're sexy?

Damn, that's sleazy.