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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-15 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2417 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2417 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-16 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)
But a lot of genderqueer people really do act stereotypically masculine or feminine. They just don't identify with women or men. Their genitals mean the same to them as, say, their height or eye color. In the same way you can say that stereotypically masculine mental characteristics don't make you a man, someone else can say that stereotypically masculine physical characteristics don't necessarily make you a man either. Even among women, you have people with very different body types and sometimes men have bodies that come closer to the feminine ideal than some women's. Then why on earth would this physical ideal be THE one and only thing which defines your gender?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-17 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
"But a lot of genderqueer people really do act stereotypically masculine or feminine. They just don't identify with women or men."
Can you clarify what you mean by not "identifying" with men and women?

"Their genitals mean the same to them as, say, their height or eye color.",
Yes, because that's how it's supposed to be. If you don't have a feeling of dsyphoria over your genitals then it just means you were born with the correct body.

"Then why on earth would this physical ideal be THE one and only thing which defines your gender?"
Your brain defines your gender and almost always matches your body's physical sex.
Very rarely a person may be born with a body that does not match the that gender. This is a medical condition known as transsexualism.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
What I mean is that a person can be ok with their genitalia but at the same time think that's what's between their legs in nobody's fucking business, so they can call themselves whatever they want and use whichever pronouns they like. Is that a problem to you?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
They can call themselves whatever the hell they want but that doesn't make them a different gender.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
Define "gender".

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 11:25 am (UTC)(link)
The body of a developing fetus starts as a female and will remain female unless it is masculinized by the presence of testosterone.
The brain goes through this process after the physical sex is determined and this is what's considered the gender.

People don't have to follow societies expectations of males and females but that doesn't mean they aren't one. They can look/act masculine, feminine or androgynous if that's how they want to present themselves and that's okay but personal expression has nothing to do with gender.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Where do intersex people fit into this?