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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-17 01:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2419 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2419 ⌋

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Notes:

Way early because taking dog to the vet. :c

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-17 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
That you wouldn't spend your time doing it isn't necessarily troublesome. That you don't understand it is.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-17 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you kidding me? I can't understand why he let Barney live.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-17 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
because for some people, making other people happy makes them happy because they have a high level of empathy ("how would I feel, where I that person?"), and seeing other people unhappy makes them unhappy, for much the same reason
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-08-17 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd like to say that it's not necessarily about the level of empathy. Sympathy has more to do with wanting to help other people/being upset when they're upset. Empathy just means understanding the way their sadness works (being able to feel the way they feel) - one may even empathize with somebody but not sympathize with them.

Sure, they're linked, but I just think it's important to draw a distinction.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-17 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG AN ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW SECRET.

Sorry, I was distracted from the actual secret by my glee at that :)

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-08-17 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
[Picture is a black and white photograph of actor Don Knotts playing Deputy Barney Fife and Andy Griffith playing Sheriff Andy Taylor, from the TV show "The Andy Griffith Show". Barney is a man with light skin and slightly receding dark hair slicked back. He is smiling as he talks, gesturing with one hand. He is wearing a dark bow-tie with light dots, a light shirt and a medium-colored rough-textured suit jacket. Andy is a man with light, maybe olive skin, short dark hair parted on the side and and wearing a dark tie, a white shirt and a darker suit jacket. He is smiling at Barney.]

I just can't understand why Andy went through so much trouble to make Barney feel good about himself. The fact I can't understand it, and wouldn't bother to do it myself, worries me.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-17 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess he goes through all the trouble because it always seemed to me that Andy had a really high empathy level, not just for Barney, but for anyone. Like, he teases people a lot, but you can't imagine him being able to stand letting someone be actually unhappy. In fact, if my memory serves me correctly, he's gotten himself into trouble for getting mixed up in other people's problems too much once or twice. Barney however, was always easy to cheer up -- just make him feel wanted or capable and he felt great again.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Because Andy is a good person and good people try to make other people feel good. That's one of the central themes of the show. But also...

Barney is actually his cousin. He cares because Barney is family. Which also explains why Barney keeps his job so easily.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, the cousin part was only mentioned a couple times in the first few episodes and was never brought up again, even in situations where it really would have come up if they had still been considering that canon.

Personally, I think Barney kept his job so easily because given how duty-obsessed he was, he was also probably really good at doing all the day-to-day stuff that most sheriffing in Mayberry probably consisted of. It was with the adventurous stuff (or trying to make things more adventurous than they actually were) that he always screwed up.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Well, if you watch that one episode whose title I forget -- the one where some newspaper reporter writes a negative article about Andy's idiosyncratic methods and Barney gives that awesome speech in defense of him -- it wouldn't be out of line to say Andy probably thinks Barney's a good guy who deserves to feel good about himself.

Course, if you're in a speculative mood, you could also headcanon that maybe Barney was really supportive of him when his wife died, or something.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Dunno if I'm alone in this, but it always seemed to me that Andy was genuinely under the impression that Barney was good at his job.

After all, Andy is the guy who decorates his cells with doilies and fresh flowers and paintings and easy chairs, lets Otis lock himself up and let himself out, picks up groceries and laundry for various housewives, prefers to come up with elaborate whoppers designed to motivate or frighten rather than outright tell anyone to do anything, and deals with people who shoot at him by marching through a hail of gunfire to scold them for acting childish.

He's only really normal compared to some of his friends. He probably mostly cares that Barney's hard-working and passionate and incorruptible and considers his bumbling to be just one of them normal Mayberry quirks that he oughtn't feel bad about ;)