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⌈ Secret Post #2419 ⌋

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Notes:

Way early because taking dog to the vet. :c

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Comments

Re: The Lambeth Poisoner (fictional version)

[sootyowl]

I think you're probably right. I think Cream would have come back in the last episodes and the plotlines would have been tied up. I think they'd have shoehorned it in somehow... even if it made the flow a bit wonky.

I view the pilot episode and the rest of the series as different. I know that they reference Elspeth in the series again, but the actress is different as is Doyle. I think the writers kindof decided to go in a different vein, but wanted to keep Doyle's soul tortured so they kept Elspeth in.

Books and TV show/movie will always be different, so putting them side by side might not unlock all the answers, unfortunately. To me, I'd view them as different materials, Murder Rooms loosely based on the books. (I haven't read the books of course, so take this as you will.)

Re: The Lambeth Poisoner (fictional version)

[dreemyweird]

I think the writers kindof decided to go in a different vein, but wanted to keep Doyle's soul tortured so they kept Elspeth in.

poor Doyle, but LOL irl :D That's the best explanation. For some reason being cynical towards fictional characters cracks me up.

Yes, you're probably right (although it's vice versa - the books are based on the series), mostly because the literary canon is written by Pirie alone, while the series is made by many a folk. The dark overtones must be partly due to Pirie's influence.

[unrelated, but sometimes I think of going to tumblr and making a blog with silly gifs from Murder Rooms. Perhaps some kind of community would eventually emerge]

Re: The Lambeth Poisoner (fictional version)

[sootyowl]

Oh, whoops. I'm so used to books coming before movies, I just assumed it as such. I would think then, the books are like the filling of the show? They expand what the show brought forth, and that's why Cream is more central to the story telling?

Or possibly in the show, they wanted to go for the one case per episode forumla, but in the books, the author was able to expand on Cream's storyline. Give the audience what they were looking for. (Am I making sense or totally off base? I'm in need of some sleep, sorry.)

I guess I need to read the books now, as all this is speculation on my part!

Re: The Lambeth Poisoner (fictional version)

[dreemyweird]

Kind of: they do contain some of the events described in the show (the pilot episode is all there, and The Patient's Eyes), but these mostly remain untouched - original material constitutes the main part of the trilogy. Cream becomes a local Moriarty who turns out to be behind every single case Bell and Doyle investigate (The Patient's Eyes story being an exception). I usually dislike the whole concept of archnemeses, so I have no idea why it doesn't rub me the wrong way :/ He's, like, the king of ridiculously powerful villains. He's also quite scary.

Nah, it does make sense! But I'm not sure why - the easy way to make a Holmes (or a Holmes-like) TV production seems to be to introduce one powerful antagonist (the way they did in Sherlock) and keep him going. What the Murder Rooms folks did is probably more about the inner logic of the series, the overall atmosphere and idea.

The books are fun, so I recommend reading them if you have a chance. They're absolutely cheerless, though - not like the show in this regard - with quite a few Gothic elements (...yeah, I don't even know. Gothic!Murder Rooms).