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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-17 01:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2419 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2419 ⌋

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Notes:

Way early because taking dog to the vet. :c

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Not sure what you mean, anon. What's the problem with the commenter's phrasing? Maybe I, too, am falling victim to my own internalised bullshit, but I'm genuinely confused.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
"Female" is a big fucking no-no. It's dehumanizing and offensive. This is not a new issue so I won't get into this in a big way, it's all online if you care to research it in more detail, but basically neckbeards and dudebros call women "Females"

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Uh... right? Still quite confused. I can perhaps see that using the biological term could be a way of distancing oneself from the character as a person, but "female" has been around for a long time. It doesn't seem like it's being used in the animal sense here. Is there the same issue if one calls a man "male"?
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-08-18 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
Calling some a female, as a noun, is dehumanizing.

Using female as an adjective is not.

Apparently, the anon missed the noun that came after this particular adjective.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
You must have serious problems when you go to use a public loo...
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-08-19 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
...okay, I have no idea what you're trying to imply, there.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
Whereas calling men neckbeards and dudebros is...?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, using a standard English adjective for being a woman is somehow sexist and dehumanizing? I'm speechless. Please explain. What word would you prefer?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
If you use standard English adjective, the patriarchy wins!

[personal profile] poisonenvy 2013-08-18 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Referring to people as just "Female" can be dehumanizing. Using female as an adjective is not.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
It was pretty clear that they were using female as an adjective, not a noun. There's absolutely nothing sexist about doing that.

Re: +1

[personal profile] poisonenvy 2013-08-18 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Looking down the thread, I really don't see this person having problems with "female characters" or "female humans" (which is a term they actually used). It's just female exes that they seem to have an issue with.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
When used as a noun, yes. Darkmanifest didn't use it as a noun; it was an adjective in that sentence. Thus, it wasn't reducing the ex (the sentence's noun) to a single trait, her femaleness; it was simply specifying one of the traits that she had.