[ SECRET POST #2419 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2419 ⌋

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Notes:

Way early because taking dog to the vet. :c

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Comments

[celeste9]

But Bela was before Castiel was even on the show, so... I know what you mean, but it's unfair to put that all on the Dean/Cas shippers when the Dean/Sam shippers were doing it ages earlier.

Also, not every Dean/Cas shipper is like this, and it makes me sad when people assume just because you ship Dean/Cas, you're a delusional, crazy-ass, woman-hating, rabid fangirl. :( Because I just like the idea of them, while never once thinking they would ever be canon. And I like things like Dean/Bela too!

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Oh, I am well aware that Bela was before Castiel was on the show. But her treatment is not unusual in the treatment given to female characters on the show. As I said, I see the unnamed female love interest Castiel is going to get next season getting the same treatment. And Lisa and Ruby and....

I am also aware that not every Dean/Castiel shipper thinks the ship is canon. And that not every Dean/Castiel shipper hates the female characters. But I have seen it enough that it bothers me. Actually, pretty much all but my little corner of fandom that I have carved out for myself bothers me. Not everyone is a delusional misogynistic fan, but enough of them are that I try to avoid all of them as best I can. And as soon as I see a sign that someone might be such a fan (like insisting Dean/Castiel is canon), I try to avoid them.

[celeste9]

I can certainly understand wanting to avoid that sort of thing, I do it myself... I pretty much avoid SPN fandom in general and just read the fic I want. I would just like to point out again that it's not limited to people who ship Dean/Cas, the Sam/Dean shippers are just as bad, if not worse, when it comes to female characters.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, the Sam/Dean shippers can be horrific. As I experienced back in Season 3, daring to be a Bela fan. However, they seem to be not as prevalent anymore, as the vast majority of SPN fans I see now are Dean/Casiel. Thus, the vast majority of crazy and/or awful fans I see are Dean/Castiel. It's just a numbers thing. And also based on numbers, there are likely more decent Dean/Castiel fans than those of other ships; it's just they don't tend to be as vocal or noteworthy, so the awful ones get my (and presumably others') attention more.

TBH, I pretty much dislike the majority of TPTB and the majority of vocal fans I've seen, of both Dean/Sam and Dean/Castiel. (And it is not even confined to the SPN fandom; althojgh I do see it a lot there, even as I try to avoid it. Other fandoms have issues too.) It's why I stay in my own little, teensy-tiny, female-friendly corner of fandom and try not to venture out too much.