[ SECRET POST #2419 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2419 ⌋

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Notes:

Way early because taking dog to the vet. :c

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Yet another DA

[(Anonymous)]

Terry Pratchett is undergoing what I like to call Rudyard Kipling syndrome. When someone was really advanced for their peak career and called a [cause of choice here be it feminism, racism, abolitionist, anti-soviet, pro-fire using, you know whatever social change was happening] suddenly now finds themselves quite a way behind the zeitgeist instead of leading it. Terry Pratchett was rad-fem in the 80s, mainstream feminist in the 90s, mainstream in the 00s, and is now sexist, but without changing his position or style at all. Just society and has changed around him. Give the guy props for putting his neck and rep on the line back in the day (cause the guy really tried, and really went out on a limb back then) and don't stress too hard about where you measure him. Take his books as being of historical value, a measurement of how far we've came. He's been kipling'd. It'll happen to this generation's radical-whatevers soon enough too.

Re: Yet another DA

[thene]

I'm not sure that comparison holds, because it is 2013 and I cannot name many fantasy/sf writers of his level of popularity who are doing better at writing women. Can you?

I think there's this equating of 'feminist' with aspirational female characters who are not constrained by broad currents of societal sexism, whereas what Pratchett has always done is write believable and funny things about women who live in sexist cultures much like the one around him. I'm not sure that this is affected by time so much as age; younger readers might have more need for the aspirational characters, older readers might have more need for characters whose lives are subject to the same stresses as theirs. (You see this in online feminism in general imo - people want to talk a lot about media tropes and not so much about workplaces or parenthood or householding that have more of an effect on women's lives.)