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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-18 03:01 pm

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dreemyweird: (austere)

A strange question about Inspector Morse/Lewis/Endeavour

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-08-18 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Both Inspector Morse and Lewis are amongst my favourite TV shows, and I'm thinking about giving Endeavour a go.

The thing is, it feels slightly ridiculous that the three are essentially the same series that appears to have a potential of expanding infinitely. What if tomorrow somebody makes Inspector Hathaway and Thursday? Will it already be OTT? Will only one of the above be OTT?

I kind of find myself with a headcanon in which the story traces back to Inspector Lestrade. There aren't too many generations between him and Thursday, after all - must be about three or four.

Also, do you ever have an impression that the three parts contain the same stuff happening over and over again? Or do the differences in personalities and relationship dynamics eliminate the effect?
aubry: (Default)

Re: A strange question about Inspector Morse/Lewis/Endeavour

[personal profile] aubry 2013-08-18 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Aren't most ITV Sunday Night crime dramas the same stuff happening over and over though? Same crimes. Same actors. Same establishing shots. Same stock characters. Walking up and down the same small alley in Oxford trying to make it look like it's longer than it is. It's half the appeal.

I like your head-canon though. Would Lestrade have an erudite young protege, or a scholarly old mentor?

dreemyweird: (austere)

Re: A strange question about Inspector Morse/Lewis/Endeavour

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-08-18 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a good point - I don't have a lot of experience with crime dramas in general (even Morse is based on a novel series), but what I've seen matches this picture. Also, Oxford is the main reason I started watching Lewis in the first place. The main motifs the audience wants must be much the same (since this is a more or less strictly defined genre) - the friendship between the main characters, the mystery, possibly the opportunity to outwit the detectives.

Inspector Morse differs from the other two somehow, probably because it has a literary counterpat. In literature there seems to be a greater variety of crime plots/tropes.

I like your head-canon though. Would Lestrade have an erudite young protege, or a scholarly old mentor?

Both, obviously :) The logical ending point would come with the first ever British policeman. He would have no predecessors.

Re: A strange question about Inspector Morse/Lewis/Endeavour

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Both, obviously :) The logical ending point would come with the first ever British policeman. He would have no predecessors.

But there could be someone like Cadfael solving crimes (that series had a sheriff, but you could imagine some earlier setting that didn't have anything like that). We could just keep going back until the British Isles were covered by ice and had no crime to solve!

Re: A strange question about Inspector Morse/Lewis/Endeavour

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
All detectives have sort of the same formula
dreemyweird: (austere)

Re: A strange question about Inspector Morse/Lewis/Endeavour

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-08-18 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
True enough, but here the same scenery and the same actors playing minor characters add something uncanny to the similarities between them.

Also, it kind of depends. The more sophisticated productions may be subverting genre stereotypes; the reasoning principles of the detectives vary, and, even though the crime drama genre tends to be formulaic, it is possible for a series to acquire certain individuality.
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Re: A strange question about Inspector Morse/Lewis/Endeavour

[personal profile] sootyowl 2013-08-18 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not a big fan of Endeavour. I just find it boring. I just can't seem to connect with the young Morse. I gave up on it.

I think the show does reharsh plots, but I guess gives it's own spin on things. It's a normal dectective/procedural show, so it doesn't break boundaries, but my mom and grandmother like it. It's pretty short in eps rn too, so you can always give it a shot.

Re: A strange question about Inspector Morse/Lewis/Endeavour

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's kind of nuts but definitely give Endeavour a try. I was skeptical, but they've done a good job. I'm a bit biased though, 'cause I'd totally watch Thursday.