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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-22 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2424 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2423 ⌋

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Re: A magnificent work of art

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Agreed about Nixon, Carter, and Eisenhower. Not so sure about Reagan, Truman and LBJ when I think about how Bush and Obama spy on the American people and have destroyed the economy the ways they have. Our economy was once recoverable but now it isn't and it's about to get a lot worse with.

And no matter who the next president is, we're still economically screwed from more than a decade of wars and national healthcare (a lot of this is from the things people who are opposed to it are doing or plan to do, though).

Re: A magnificent work of art

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Mostly in terms of foreign policy, but: LBJ straight-up lied to the American people in the process of getting us into Vietnam (multiple times - with the Gulf of Tonkin incident, and also when he lied about how many troops he was going to commit to Vietnam), and his policy on Vietnam, in the way he committed us to it strongly and then didn't raise taxes to fund it, was definitely not beneficial for the American populace (there's a lot of ways in which the old "first as tragedy, then as farce" idea springs to mind when you think about Iraq and Vietnam). And Reagan's administration did, you know, disobey an act of Congress and sell weapons to Iran in order to illegally fund a right-wing junta in Nicaruaga. That wasn't exactly great.

Economically, the reason we're screwed has almost nothing to do with national healthcare (which hasn't even kicked in yet, and won't be that expensive on the scale we're talking about, and would be less expensive if people weren't trying to fuck it). The reason the government is in a bad position financially is principally because of three things: a decade of expensive and unnecessary war; low tax rates and tax cuts during that war, and after; and the consequences of the economic recession, mostly in terms of a lower tax base. The primary reason for the recession was the completely elimination of regulation on the financial sector, and the consequent incredible risk-taking and speculative bubbles in the financial sector. And that elimination of regulations has broadly been the policy of every President since 1980, and Reagan certainly took the pole position in that. It's not coincidental that Obama has said that Reagan is the modern president who most inspires him, I don't think.

In conclusion, Ronald Reagan was awful.