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I didn't take it as an insult, don't worry. I agree with you. Peter Hale is a shady motherfucker. He's manipulative and he only cares about himself. Why Derek kept him around this season...Well actually I imagine Derek kept him around because another reason I love Peter so much is that he's useful. He knows so much more than Derek about the trips and pitfalls of lycanthropy. Whether or not he's willing to share that knowledge depends on the day and his mood and whether or not there's anything in it for him, but he has it to share if he so chooses.

Oh he definitely wants the power associated with the alpha title. I've always thought of him as someone who wants all of the power with none of the responsibilities. Then again, maybe not. As awful as him trying to manipulate Scott into killing was, the implication was that he wanted Scott to do it to forge a bond and make their pack stronger? At least that's what I got out of it with Derek telling him that "The Alpha" wanted Scott to kill with him.

I had been waiting for Peter to pull something like this, I was just desperately hoping it would be something different. Where we left off in the finale seems like a huge overhaul leading to a rehash of season 1. Derek & sister have left Beacon Hills, and since AKane's not coming back, Derek will most likely be returning alone. Scott is going to have to confront the challenges associated with being a True Alpha, and Peter's gonna be skulking around in the background, trying to fuck things up for everybody. Yep. Sounds a lot like season 1 to me.

The Paige storyline...I will never understand what went through Jeff Davis' head and why he thought making that period of Derek's life about anyone other than Kate was a good idea. I enjoyed the episode, but it fucks so many things over. A proper flashback episode would've shown Derek and Kate and the house fire. I still can't believe so much of what Peter said was true. I was infatuated with the theory that the Paige thing actually did happen, but to Peter and that he used Derek as the focal character because...well who knows why Peter does anything he does? I could definitely see him having left out other important details, but I don't know. I love Peter and so much of 3A has jossed my headcanons for him. I can accept that he's always been manipulative, but I've always agreed with his "I'm not a TOTAL psychopath" because I saw his actions in season one as revenge. That he was probably a pretty normal, significantly more well adjusted guy before the fire.

If there's one question I have in the wake of the Paige debacle, it's "What was in it for Peter?" He talks about how Ennis had lost a pack member, and Derek was head over heels in love with Paige, so it only made sense to have Ennis turn Paige and that this would somehow gain both parties favor from Talia and back then everybody wanted to be in Talia's good graces or whatever. Yeah...what was in that deal for him? Because given his reactions both in the flashback and out, I think he genuinely expected Paige to live and that that was the result he wanted. The question is why.

Are you the OP of the thread, btw? You should post more about Teen Wolf! I'm new to the fandom and love hearing people rattle on about their head-canons and feelings about the characters.

Well actually I imagine Derek kept him around because another reason I love Peter so much is that he's useful. He knows so much more than Derek about the trips and pitfalls of lycanthropy. Whether or not he's willing to share that knowledge depends on the day and his mood and whether or not there's anything in it for him, but he has it to share if he so chooses.

Agreed. I do understand this on some level (and even though Peter is dangerous and up to no good, I suppose Derek might have thought it was best to keep Peter close so he could keep an eye on him as well), but it still baffles me that everyone is just going about their business with Peter in the background. It cracks me up more than it should tbh, but I'm with you -- IDK how to take this whole revert to season one. Just hope it doesn't feel like more of the same, and they do something exciting and fresh with it along with the new antagonists.

Because Jeff David can't stop giving Derek the absolute worst life ever? Like Kate wasn't bad enough, nope, Kate had to come after that whole mess. I have heard the 'maybe the story was actually about Peter' thing before and while I think it's an interesting theory, I feel like Paige will never be mentioned again. I don't trust the writers enough to come up with something that complex and follow through with it. And no one but Peter knows why Peter does anything, this is true. (For what it's worth, I think he was probably 'pretty' normal before the fire. Probably still selfish and manipulative, but I can see him being much less ill intentioned.)

That's a good question. There probably is more to the story, but...god knows what it is or when or if we'll get the rest of it. Peter seems like the type to have a reason for everything.

I am not the OP of the thread. I haven't read general comments in years because I always forget that they're on the second page now. That said, I could talk about Teen Wolf for days, so. I just have so many thoughts and so many questions (most of them are about Peter these days, but also questions like...money in that universe and other characters interacting with Peter. I'm so bitter we didn't get to see Peter interact with Deaton in 3A because I'm convinced Deaton knew Peter was the Alpha in season one all along. I'm at the point where I'm worried they'll never address those questions from season one again. Questions like: 'If Deaton wasn't the alpha, why did his heartbeat indicate he was lying when Derek confronted him?' or 'What did Deaton mean when he said "not easily" in response to Scott and Stiles asking him how he managed to get out of Derek's trunk?'

My personal headcanon is that Deaton knew all along (or at the very least, had a pretty good idea, that Peter was the Alpha because he was the Hale family emissary. I think Peter probably untied Alan and let him go while Scott & Stiles were distracted by Derek's stab wounds. It's not like Peter hasn't used outside help before (Nurse Jennifer).

Given that these events took place in episodes 6 & 7 and have yet to be mentioned again, I wouldn't be surprised if you were right and that they never did mention Paige again.

Anyway, like I said, I could talk about Teen Wolf for days on end, and like you, I love hearing people's headcanons and thoughts about the characters and just the show in general, so please feel free to share with me any thoughts you have.

Boy, you really do have questions. (Which isn't a bad thing! Well, it can be if they never get answered.

Re: money, I do wonder how much money Derek inherited and how Cora has been getting along all this time. I still don't see how those two didn't know of the others fate, but Jeff doesn't seem too concerned about that.

Hmm, as for Deaton knowing about Peter, it sounds possible (especially when you factor in his history with the Hale family), and I had forgot about him lying to Derek. It'll be interesting to see if they bring that up, but again...I have my doubts. The "not easily" comment might have just been a reference to how resourceful Deaton is? We didn't know he was a emissary back then, right? Maybe he has experience with that sort of thing. Maybe that was foreshadowing. (Though Peter untying him makes more sense, I think. Unless Deaton had a knife on him somewhere and managed to cut through the ropes or something. Which...seems far fetched, but this is Teen Wolf, so...)

I love this show, but there are a lot of issues I have with it. The lack of answers and blatant glossing over of issues get to me sometimes, but I still love it. I don't think I'll stop watching anytime soon. I'm addicted now.

Don't be afraid to make a thread in general comments if you ever feel like discussing the show! If I see it, I'll most likely be there.

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