[ SECRET POST #2425 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2425 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Kate Mulgrew as Galina 'Red' Reznikov in Orange is the New Black]


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02.
[Teen Wolf]


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03.
[Welcome to Night Vale]


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04.
[Brendan Fraser]


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05. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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06. [SPOILERS for Arrested Development]



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07. [SPOILERS for Degrassi]



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08. [WARNING for abuse]



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09. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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10. [WARNING for underage/abuse/etc]

















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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Isn't Nightvale an audio-only canon, though? Drawing the characters to look like their voice actors isn't quite the same as doing so with an animated canon, but it's also not exactly the same as doing fanart of characters from a live-action canon.

I'm not saying that any of the above is necessarily automatically bad/wrong/creepy, but I can easily understand having differing reactions to those.

[kaijinscendre]

Why would drawing a character based on the voice actor's body be different from drawing it based on a physical actor's body? (Honest question, I hate how in text everything sounds like I am being antagonistic).

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Based on the physical actor, the character canonically looks like that. Based on the voice actor, the character may or may not canonically look like that, may or may have a canonical appearance at all. If they haven't been described as looking like the voice actor, then it is the fan who is introducing the voice actor's body to the equation.

...I'm not sure whether I think it's creepy, but I can see a difference.

[kaijinscendre]

Hm. I see the difference but I don't really find it creepy. Just seems like a logical conclusion to me.

[(Anonymous)]

In the absence of information indicating they don't look like the voice actor, it's a reasonable shortcut to take. --Although I would describe it as a fanon appearance, not a canon appearance, unless it is somehow confirmed in canon. (It seems even more reasonable to me when the character and voice actor share a name.)

[(Anonymous)]

Because their body is explicitly part of the canon in a live action source, which isn't the case in other sources. It's bringing in something from outside (similar to fanon attributing a character with the actor's tastes in food or music, their faith/lack thereof, their sexual preferences, etc)- I don't disapprove of it or anything, but it's an additional level of intimacy with the actor that isn't there in the original.

Also, depending on the canon, it could sometimes get a little weird. In animated or audio canons (or dubs, for that matter), you don't have to look the part- you just have to sound it. A voice actor can differ from their character dramatically- grown women can play young boys, a black man can voice a white Sith Lord, someone with a visible disability can play someone without and vice versa. Some canons even reuse their more versatile voice actors, so you can sometimes wind up with scenes where someone is playing multiple people in the same scene. Live action mostly doesn't have those kinds of situations.

[(Anonymous)]

...On the second paragraph - animation *HAS* a canon appearance for the character, so the drawing it like the VA wouldn't make any sense. However, wtnv, the character has the same freaking name as the VA, and no canon appearance. So it makes sense that some people would base their fanon version on the VA [who, for the record, seems perfectly fine with it.]

[ryttu3k]

Wow so late to the party. Anyway!

Well, two reasons. First, canonically, Cecil is mentioned to have hair. ...We don't know what kind of hair, but hair nonetheless! The description we get of the character is, "It is a man. He is wearing a tie. He is not tall or short, not thin or fat. He has eyes like mine and a nose like mine, and hair like mine, but I do not think he is me. Maybe it is the smile."

So, you know - he does have hair, heh.

Second, that description comes from Kevin, who is Cecil's almost-identical double. Kevin is voiced by Kevin R Free, who is black. If they're meant to be identical, then whose appearance do you choose?

And actually, a third reason, the casting has never actually matched up with the characters. Carlos is canonically described as dark-skinned but his voice actor, Jeffrey Cranor, is white, and the 'Faceless Old Woman' is played by 26-year-old Mara Wilson, who is clearly... not old. (Also, she has a face.)

So there's just... it wouldn't make sense for Carlos to look like Jeffrey Cranor, or for the Faceless Old Woman to look like Mara Wilson, and Cecil and Kevin can't BOTH look like their voice actors and still be doubles.

[(Anonymous)]

"(Also, she has a face.)"
Best reply with logic ever.

[(Anonymous)]

But animated movies often use the voice actors as models for the character designs.