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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-23 07:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #2425 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2425 ⌋

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[Kate Mulgrew as Galina 'Red' Reznikov in Orange is the New Black]


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[Teen Wolf]


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[Welcome to Night Vale]


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[Brendan Fraser]


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05. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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06. [SPOILERS for Arrested Development]



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08. [WARNING for abuse]



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09. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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OP - Clarification

(Anonymous) 2013-08-24 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I don't aspire to look like someone who is starving to death, my body image isn't quite distorted enough to think that's attractive. I have trouble losing weight because I love food so much, and I know many people have lost weight for movies but she's the first one who caught my attention, probably because I saw the movie three times. Her "crash diet" of sorts inspired me because if she can est next to nothing, I...I don't have anywhere near the willpower to starve myself, but maybe I can eat less...

I admit...I think I would though, if I could. I have some messed up body image issues, and I know it's not right, but in my eyes, I won't look okay until I look like the model my mom always tried to get me to look like. Fortunately(?), like I said, I love food too much, have very little willpower, and won't be doing anything like what Hathaway did.

Re: OP - Clarification

(Anonymous) 2013-08-24 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
maybe try something like eating two thirds or three quarters of the portions you normally eat? that's a good start

also, if possible ditch stuff with artificial sweeteners and corn fructose -- those seriously contribute to a disproportionate amount of weight-gaining

I admit I'm relieved to hear that you're being reasonable about this, good luck op! c:

I won't look okay until I look like the model my mom always tried to get me to look like.

and, this is off-topic and like zero percent my business, but, having heard from similar tales, addressing that in therapy could help with the whole willpower/bodily perception combo, if you're not doing it already

Re: OP - Clarification

(Anonymous) 2013-08-24 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
That is messed up thinking. That thing about the model. And it's good you acknowledge it. It's okay to love food. Honestly, and you don't have to think like this, I'd rather enjoy my food and myself than worry about what I look like because society will always find something wrong with you and some way to treat you like an object. You're beautiful the way you are, even if you can't see it. Because you're still the only one who's you.

Re: OP - Clarification

(Anonymous) 2013-08-24 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
You are aware that Hathaway's weight loss was always intended to be temporary - crash diets aren't a good way to maintain weight loss.

You have to develop different habits if you want to keep the weight off. Otherwise, in addition to being unhealthy, your diet won't even give you what you want.

Re: OP - Clarification

[personal profile] anonlulz 2013-08-24 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
Unless you have a health issue that is aggravated by being above a certain weight that a doctor has marked for you, there is absolutely no need to lose weight. Specially not to simulate a "model".
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Re: OP - Clarification

[personal profile] thene 2013-08-24 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
I love food too. I lost of lot of weight last year partly by refusing to eat boring things ever.

I dunno if you've ever tried counting calories but I think it's worth at least looking at as a brief exercise, because until I tried it I had no actual idea how all the different foods I liked fitted in to the overall equation. Turns out there's some things I love and eat all the time that take up a lot of calories, and some things I love and eat all the time that take up hardly any. Having that information (even just vaguely) makes it easier to keep on track.

Re: OP - Clarification

(Anonymous) 2013-08-24 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
I think counting calories can potentially change one's relationship with food forever - for the worse. Everything becomes good/bad, and instinctive eating . That's great if it works for you, but please be cautious recommending it to everyone else even as an exercise.

Re: OP - Clarification

(Anonymous) 2013-08-24 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
* instinctive eating becomes very hard. If you're already down the rabbit hole of guilt then maybe it can help, else I would advise against it as the first go-to in negotiating one's relationship with food.
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Re: OP - Clarification

[personal profile] thene 2013-08-24 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You say 'instinctive eating' like it's a good thing - instinct would have me drinking a fuck of a lot more alcohol than I do, and would never have taught me to measure my cooking oil. That's like saying everyone should be 'instinctive shopping' instead of looking at price tags and knowing roughly how much money they have in the bank. If that's how you shop, you're going to be responding to heavily marketed, high-cost items...which, surprise, is what happens with 'instinctive eating': you get the disgusting food and drinks industry we have, that pushes instant gratification at the cost of our health later in life. Like with shopping, calorie budgeting doesn't make items good/bad, it just makes them easily affordable/needs moderation, and fortunately there is a huge variety of easily affordable food out there. Counting calories for a few months last year changed my relationship with food much for the better.

I do get why you're cautious, because eating disorders are serious business, but whether or not someone has an eating disorder isn't going to be affected by looking at the calorie labels on their food or downloading a calorie app for their phone; just looking at the math is not going to make an otherwise-healthy person snap and become anorexic. In this case it's a much healthier option than what OP was considering doing instead.
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Re: OP - Clarification

[personal profile] visp 2013-08-24 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I lost of lot of weight last year partly by refusing to eat boring things ever.

I've always found this effective. Get snobbish about your desserts and you eat far less, and enjoy what you do eat far more.

Re: OP - Clarification

(Anonymous) 2013-08-24 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
Instead of eating less, why not just eat healthily?

I don't understand why people feel the need to starve themselves (which an actually make you fatter) or eat tiny portions in order to lose weight, when all you really need to do to lose weight is eat healthy and exercise more. Calories in, calories out.

Re: OP - Clarification

(Anonymous) 2013-08-24 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
...that's actually a fallacy, and ignores metabolic issues. But I think starving is a terrible idea for everyone.

Re: OP - Clarification

(Anonymous) 2013-08-24 08:57 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I do think it works as a general guideline to living a healthier lifestyle. But yeah I'm boggled by people who think that starving themselves or going on some bizarre crash-diet is better than just...eating healthy. If a person has the means to eat healthy and exercise regularly, then wouldn't that be easier and much more rewarding than not eating anything at all? I know a lot of people find healthy eating boring, but how is going without food at all less 'boring'?

Re: OP - Clarification

(Anonymous) 2013-08-24 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
OP don't forget she was being paid a lot of money to go on that diet, and the studios often police the actors diets and push them to get to the desired weight, I suspect most actors have real trouble with eating and weight as a result of how much pressure there is to be unnaturally think generally.

Anyhow I suspect you would be able to do it if it was your job, and you were getting the salary she got to do it, plus your employers were making sure of it.

Personally I don't even think it was needed, she's thin enough IRL to have been able to convince us.

Re: OP - Clarification

[personal profile] poisonenvy 2013-08-24 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, instead of eating less, you can just split up your meals from three big meals, to 5 - 6 small meals. Whenever I go on my Roller Derby diet (which isn't diety diet, but like "Cut all the sugar out of your diet" sort of stuff), it's three medium sized meals, and two smaller snacks. It's pretty awesome.