[ SECRET POST #2427 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2427 ⌋

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Comments

Re: You missed my point.

[(Anonymous)]

Of course it's leading. What you originally said gives the impression that you believe Lucy Liu and Ziyi Zhang were chosen, at least in part, because of their looks, and the question was intended to assess that. Your answer proves that this impression was correct.

Ziyi Zhang is not considered unattractive in East Asian circles. People were upset because she was not Japanese. The point was to illustrate that you chose a poor example.

Furthermore, you are not making a very good case for this not being at least in part about sexism. If a female actor can lose or gain a role depending upon whether or not certain people find her attractive, then that is sexism. The fact that her attractiveness or lack thereof does not correspond to beauty standards in a certain part of the world doesn't change that.

Re: You missed my point.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm talking about the West constantly exotifying Asian women and demanding that the exotification be accepted.

You're talking about how beauty standards are sexist, and how any beauty standards at all are sexist things.

I don't feel there's any point in continuing this, as it's become obvious we're arguing at entirely different things here.

Re: You missed my point.

[(Anonymous)]

So, a western company making a game with, most likely, western fans in mind and not doing massive changes to a model that - they openly stated was not supposed to be "supermodel" attractive because the asian fans thought she wasn't attractive is the west demanding people agree with their standards of beauty? Even though a number of factors between both western and eastern beauty actually match up?

[Because, remember - the comments were mostly focused on her beauty, not how realistic she looked]

Re: You missed my point.

[(Anonymous)]

That is not what you stated you were talking about two comments ago. You stated that your entire point revolved around the fact that beauty standards are different in different places.

You know what's obvious? When people don't respond the way you want, you move the goalposts. Good job.

Re: You missed my point.

[(Anonymous)]

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Oh, btw: arguing that it's okay for Japanese fans of a game to dislike a female character because she's not "attractive" to them but then decrying Western exotification of Asian women is absolutely fucking ridiculous. Either it's okay to judge women based on their appearance or it's not. Sort that shit out.