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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-25 03:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #2427 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2427 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-26 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, nobody said Sam's (or Cas's) screw-ups weren't their own fault. They both had warnings from other people than Dean. They made stupid asshat decisions and that's on their heads. But Dean was one of the very few people who was in a position to head them both off, and he failed each time because he had to fall back on John Winchester's "My way or the highway" attitude, which all else aside was pretty much guaranteed to piss Sam off and drive him away, as Dean knew perfectly well (or should have, after watching it play out over and over again since they were kids.)

Also, if you're going to excuse Dean's bad decisions because of extenuating circumstances, then play fair and excuse the others as well: Sam was in a really bad fucked-up place after Dean's horrible death and descent to Hell, and Cas had 24 hours to come up with a viable alternative to "surrender, die (and let the Apocalypse happen either way) or drag your best friend back into a horrible life he's trying to escape." An alternative, by the way, which nobody in the show ever did come up with. Dean was hellbent on making him stop, but he didn't have any better ideas and didn't even appear to try to think of any (what was that about coming up with the plans?)

It really doesn't matter how right or wrong Dean is if he can't get people to listen to him. And they don't listen because he can't (or won't) get off his high horse and treat others as competent adults, inspiring a desire in them to prove his condescending ass wrong.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-26 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It really doesn't matter how right or wrong Dean is if he can't get people to listen to him. And they don't listen because he can't (or won't) get off his high horse and treat others as competent adults, inspiring a desire in them to prove his condescending ass wrong.

How fucking childish. These are grown ass people, not 16 year olds.