[ SECRET POST #2433 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2433 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Beowulf and Chaucer are generally taught at the college level. Why is it so evil to expect grown men and women to learn a little of the history of their own language?

[(Anonymous)]

It's not evil, but Chaucer is written in Middle English and with a few changes to the accent makes sense as a poem--but they generally have to have all the jokes explained because the language has changed its usage and verbage since then in some cases.

Beowulf was written in Old English, which is way more like German than English today and is more or less incomprehensible to a modern day English speaker.

Best play-translation I ever read was Shakespeare put into Cold War terms. I damn near died laughing. Once you understand what's going on it's often hysterical.

[(Anonymous)]

In my British Lit course in college, our professor read us Beowulf in the original while we followed along with the translation and it was MAGICAL. There's something so lovely about the lilt of language that I have never seen a translation capture. It was so perfect.

[ariakas]

I don't suppose you recall who wrote the Shakespeare as Cold War drama? This is relevant to my interests.

[(Anonymous)]

ntayrt and laaaaaaaaaaaaaate but I think they saw this version?

http://www.goldstar.com/events/seattle-wa/henry-v

[(Anonymous)]

Just sayin' I learned Beowulf and Chaucer in my sophomore year of high school.

[(Anonymous)]

Where did you go to school that those aren't taught til college? We did Shakespeare every year, yeah, and Chaucer freshman and senior year and Beowulf senior year.

[ceiling_fan]

The problem is that they are not taught how to read the language, rather the work is shoved under their noses and they are expected to soak it up.

At least when learning classic Chinese, us native speakers are expected to learn how to decode them first.

[(Anonymous)]

Dude, I learned Beowulf and Chaucer in high school [and, frankly, was completely turned off of the former by just how into describing the gore my teacher got. Seriously, it's like the gore was turning her on in front of the class.]

Also, what's so evil about letting people read a translation of something that they probably won't understand too well otherwise? And that's before you even have to consider the fact that there are a ton of cultural references that people won't understand because they aren't references in modern culture.

Also, to put this in, perhaps, some perspective for you - there are places that treat middle and old English as a separate language because that's how different they are. Middle English can be understood to some extent, sure, albeit not easily but old English is out of the question.

[silverau]

1 - I had to deal with both in high school.

2 - Because very few people in the world will ever have any need to understand Old English - and the ones who do can take a separate class for that; no need to deal with it in English class.

[(Anonymous)]

For my English degree we had a compulsory semester of learning Old English. The exam was at least multiple choice, so I managed to squeak past on educated guesses, but it was the worst and most pointless class I ever took (and I still have a teeny bit of rage thinking about it)

[silverau]

Uuuugh that sounds horrible. I like learning languages and linguistics, but even I'd hate to learn a whole semester of Old English.

[(Anonymous)]

lol evil. k picture a 90yr old trying to read 800 words of l33t. same diff. possible but super annoying