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Say something you created got popular enough to become a movie. If an actor in your movie started saying things about the character asserting that it was canon and any canon you created was "wrong" would you be annoyed or just let it slide?

I don't even really mean annoyed enough to confront the actor but would you at least me internally upset at the assertion that they know your character more than you do?

I guess it sounds a bit like someone writing a OOC fanfiction except in this case the fans take what the actor said as truth instead of just reading a fanfiction as AU.

I think I may be hyper protective of my babies.

The creator knows better and the actors don't count. Acting = interpretations of the work, same as any fan reading, and the creator always trumps them.

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No see, I'd be confronting the actor. If he is actually verbally contradicting me? I'm probably gonna see he gets replaced if I can wrangle that. And since any contract I'd ever sign for my baby would give me some healthy creative control, I probably can. Dude is either gonna shut the fuck up or fuck right off. I don't mind his fanon but I will not put up with the blatant disrespect to say the canon is wrong. I'm god here bitch.

I disagree here. Take Empire Strikes Back for example, weak characters by Lucas in the hands of actors who knew how to act, and a director willing to let actors act created magic. Kershner, Kasdan, Ford, and Fisher clearly knew more about Solo/Leia than Lucas did. I suspect that the prequels would have been a bit better if Lucas had let McGregor work through the character more.

The fact of the matter is that modern drama is a construction of shared interpretation, and if you're not going to let everyone else do their jobs in interpreting the script in order to create good performance, production design, stage craft, and cinematography, you don't understand drama and shouldn't be signing on the dotted line to release your work to a screenwriter (or illustrator, or comic book team).

Interestingly, Vonnegut was probably one of the few people to actually get this, saying, that adaptations must be adaptations or they "Won't be worth shit."

If you're asking me as the consumer, then I suppose it would depend on which medium I preferred- either the book or the movie.

If I had no strong feelings either way, I might just prefer to think of the book character and the movie character as two different entities who happened to have a lot of similarities.

From a writing perspective, I'd be annoyed, but I'd let it slide because I've done a bit of acting here and there and I can understand the need to create motivations/headcanons for a character. Those motivations/headcanons contradicting the source material is strange, but I don't think it's the end of the world.

The creator knows best about the version of the character that lives in their head and their words as written. Which has the distinction of being the first version, but IMO that's largely an honorary or symbolic distinction. The actor knows best about the version that lives in their head.

Following through to the logical conclusion, each fan knows best about THEIR specific head-version. And because they're all make-believe characters that ultimately exist ONLY in peoples' heads (and on film, digital media and the printed page, which is an extension of that concept; i.e., none of it is objective physical reality,) nobody's version is inherently better than anyone else's--at least, not merely by virtue of which person they happen to belong to.

It's entirely possible for an actor (or fan) to come up with a version that's objectively more logical, likeable, believable, detailed or just plain better than the original, and if anyone else chooses to include it in their own headcanon, that's the author's tough luck. They don't have the right to police other peoples' thoughts. This does not, however, invalidate their claim to 'canon' correctness, even if that's largely academic.

Neither?

Whoever you agree with or thinks makes the better case? I guess? Obviously I'd be angry if I was the writer, but if it's a film or a movie, the actor is a creator just as much as the writer is, tbqh.

Creator's views trumps what the actors think. What the actors think can make for nice AU's and fun discussion, but what creator says is canon is canon.

idk though, if I was the creator I wouldn't care what the actor thought or wanted, as long as they didn't try to change what I/the creator was writing...and plenty of fans will try to take anything but canon as truth > see Pacific Rim and the nile is now the widest river in all of egypt.

Who knows better. Actor or creator?

Neither. The "canon" (a bullshit concept but let's run with it) is the FINAL, DELIVERED, AND EDITED BODY OF WORK. If either spouts an interpretation that's not supported by the FINAL WORK whoops, sorry, you failed to express that in the editorial process, pull a Mary Shelly or Stephen King and do it over.

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