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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-31 03:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2433 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2433 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-01 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I'm betting the aIrt was one of the incredibly wanky ESGs who posted the "Sam just deserves to be happy!" secrets last week. You know, the ones where the examples they gave of Sam's happiness were actually moments where Sam was suicidally depressed, miserable, etc? Same language choices, same gross misunderstanding of Dean's character, same need to bash people who like Dean.

I just find it so frustrating that their view on Dean's deal has become the fandom norm. It's one that I've never understood. It's like the people who get hung up on the fact that Sam is more self-centered than Dean* - "self centered" isn't always a bad thing! It's a hell of a lot more healthy than Dean's take on things, especially early in the series. Sam made choices that were in his own self interest and it was a GOOD thing. But it's like they have this incredibly rigid definition of "selfless" and "self centered" and can't understand that sometimes selflessness is bad and self centered is good, so they can't possibly see Dean as selfless or Sam as self centered.



* Caveat here being the whole more than deal. Sam loses any trace of being self centered IMO around the middle of S5 and he typically wasn't obnoxiously self centered even before that (though there were a couple of moments in S1 that made me want to shake him). He was just more self centered than Dean in the sense that he knew what he wanted for himself and was willing to forego what other people would prefer to make that happen. Like him leaving for college. It was definitely in Sam's best interest but wasn't in the best interests of John or Dean or the people that they helped but it's not like Sam was a bad person or made a bad call by deciding to go. It was the right decision, IMO, and it got Sam out of an unsafe place that was damaging to his mental health. He made the right call.

And the occasions when Sam was negatively self centered, well. So what? A character isn't allowed to have flaws? Peh.