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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-01 03:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2434 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2434 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[A7X]


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[Stargate Atlantis]


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[Merlin]


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[Audrey Cooper, Twin Peaks]


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[Fire Emblem: Awakening]


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[Avril Lavigne, Tank Girl]


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[Meet the Robinsons]


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[Blood+]


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[Monty Python's Flying Circus]


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[Valentine Morgenstern, The Mortal Instruments]


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(Anonymous) 2013-09-02 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Fair enough, I stand corrected and I thank you for your civility.

I would like to know, though: is there a formal term for the certitude, absent any proof (which cannot be obtained, as has been noted elsewhere) that no God exists? Because I run across it all the time from people who call themselves atheists, so if that isn't the right word, what is?

(Anonymous) 2013-09-02 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
People who claim to be certain that no gods exist belong to a sub-category of atheists called "strong atheists." People who simply lack belief are called "weak atheists."

(Anonymous) 2013-09-02 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
da, we call that gnostic atheism. But I do doubt you're meeting THAT many gnostic atheists (I've literally only met one, and I've hung around lots of atheist communities), but rather agnostic atheists who go with the notion of "absent of any evidence, I'll go on living my life as though this thing doesn't exist". That's still Agnostic atheism, because it's still open to evidence changing their views, and it's still acknowledging that it's not provable/disprovable so far as we know. It looks a lot like gnosticism, but it's more of a probability thing. These agnostic atheists are just doubtful that evidence will ever come on the subject of gods.

Not to demean anyone's beliefs, but as a very simplistic analogy, it's like unicorns. There's no evidence of them in the world, never has been. It's reasonable to live your life under the assumption that unicorns don't exist. But as an agnostic, you're not capable of asserting with 100% certainty that they're not real; just... very likely made up by humans, if you look at history. And so if evidence were to pop up to show that unicorns were real, the agnostic atheists towards unicorns would switch their positions. It's just not unreasonable to say that, until that evidence comes to say otherwise, they're highly doubtful towards the existence of unicorns.

Even Richard Dawkins is an agnostic atheist. It's... pretty rare to find atheists who assert they KNOW there is no god. The only famous one I know of is Penn Jillette.