[ SECRET POST #2435 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2435 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 049 secrets from Secret Submission Post #348.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[anonlulz]

Fairy tales are practically Base Plots. You strip them off some elements, and the plots can be recognized in other stories. They are also cultural, part of humanity. Ok?

This is why there's an over abundance of LRRH stories, Cinderella, and so on.

It's entirely different from basing a story off, say, Harry Potter, and expecting to earn money from it. That doesn't impede people from writing about magic, wizards, so on. Because those elements are already part of our culture, too.

Better?

[(Anonymous)]

Much.

But, at the same time, I can riff an idea from Buffy the Vampire Slayer about, say, a vampire war involving primitive vampires, and it would still be mine, even if it wouldn't exist without me having seen the show.

Everything riffs on something else, and ideas come from everywhere. As long as the writer takes it and makes it theirs, it doesn't matter where the original nugget came from. Or even if you're ripping elements out wholesale that you might not have thought of on your own. It's all about putting Character and Plot and Setting and Idea together in its own way--there are a billion configurations of "two brothers fight monsters" or "spaceship crew trying to make a living under an oppressive government" or "magic suddenly exists and tech doesn't work."

It's all in the execution.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I havea character who is a walking doomsday weapon.

She was inspired by Babylon 5.

You probably would realise it though.



Then again, I will likely never write fic about her, let alone original fic.

[anonlulz]

Again, you're missing the point.

Elements and Base Plots existed long before Buffy did.

If you want to write a Buffy rip off where you change her name and personality, replace vampires with aliens, and expect to get paid, well that's shitty.

Something else entirely is to come up with your own character, your own elements (derivatives), your own take on a Base Plot... That's proper world building and acceptable.

Things can influence you, but something is to be influenced and another thing is to pretend you came up with something when all you did was change names.

It has been good. See you on next secret batch.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not "missing your point," I'm disagreeing with it. Inspiration comes from whence it comes, and no one way is superior to any other way.

If you want to write a Buffy rip off where you change her name and personality, replace vampires with aliens, and expect to get paid, well that's shitty.

If I do that, it's not Buffy anymore. "Monster hunting" is the base plot, if you go far enough back, and why does it matter if my tall dark male alien hunter came from me going "Huh, Buffy is kind of neat, let me do this with that instead" or if it came from the "Monster hunter base plot"? That's not a simple name change, that's an entire world change.