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fandomsecrets2013-09-02 06:49 pm
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(Anonymous) 2013-09-03 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)Also,tbh, your movie comparison doesn't hold up. A movie that you walk into half way is already half way through it's individual story arc. A game installment [or even just X book/movie in a series] has an individual arc and story lines that might connect to everything over all...but still are perfectly able to stand on their own, and create connections with new players/viewers/readers and already established characters.
Think about this way - the Harry Potter movies. You could miss the first one, and while you'd miss some world building you'd still be able to figure out the characters, the relationships between them and [even if you can't get the exact reason] a general gist of why the characters who are friends and friends, and who don't like each other don't like each other. You also get a grasp for their personalities. It's *shown* not just told. That's installment story telling well done.
That doesn't happen with Gat. It's basically just said "He's awesome!" Which is never really backed up with much "showing", and the characterization they give him isn't strong enough to cover for that and convey him as a strong, complex character.
King, on the other hand, does manage to have that conveyed and comes off as pretty awesome...while having roughly as much screen time as Gat gets.
Also,"YOU CAME IN ON THE THIRD INSTALLMENT, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO COMPLAIN"? Really? That's just silly.
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(Anonymous) 2013-09-04 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)Narrative wise, he was the boss's oldest friend. That's basically all you get. You don't get the most imporant thing about him that makes him human above just the random guy that kills: his deceased girlfriend, Aisha. Without really going into that final bit, the game really did a diservice to the connection a new player could have to the character.
There's also the fact the game franchise loves playing the Worf Effect on him. So here's this guy built to be this total bad ass and now watch how he falls. Without the context of that there, you're missing in on the over all narrative joke. Again, not good for a new player trying to get a handle of the character.
Keep in mind, I like Gat. But I also play 2 as my first Saints Row game which gave you a way better impression of the character than IV did. IV, I don't know, I felt empty. I was happy they returned Gat and actually had him resolve his issue with Aisha but over all I felt like they didn't do as much as they could like they did with King.
tl;dr I can actually see where you're coming from, if that makes sense? Because I feel like IV doesn't give a very good first impression of the character. Which, for a long running character like Gat, is kind of important.