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[The Book Thief, The Days of the Deer, Neil Gaiman's Sandman]

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[Macklemore & Ryan Lewis]

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[The Glades]

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[Revenge]

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[The Killing (AMC)]

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[Star Trek]

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[TRON: Uprising]

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[Les Miserables]

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Had a conversation today with someone who insisted that triggers and phobias were the same thing and that people should warn for common phobias when they post art or fic

So what do you think fscom? Is there a difference between triggers and phobias?

Myself, I don't think they're quite the same

Same...but they are pretty similar in effect.

I'm going to kind of pull from Don't Touch Me anon above - Obviously, I don't know them, but I'd guess they would have only a minimal problem with seeing others be touched despite trying to avoid it themselves.

Seeing someone being stabbed after they've witnessed one in person is probably a little different.

Yes, there is a definite difference. In terms of the reactions people have to things that are triggers versus things that are phobias. However, if you, let's say, posted art of a character in a cave covered with spiders or snakes or something, wouldn't it be common courtesy to warn for it, so that people with phobias, who could potentially freak out seeing something like that could choose to avoid it instead? Even if they aren't going to go into a full fledged panic attack, like the would if it were a trigger?

I'm pretty sure you can be phobic of something without being triggered by hearing about it. Not everyone automatically puts themselves in a character's place.

Warning! Warning! Common sense detected! Thread implosion imminent...

No.

Hell, I have Arachnophobia, but I'm not gonna even try and insist everyone put TW: Spiders on their posts. Because, why should they?

the only tags I even really want on posts (tumblr) are the fandom names so i know what to black list. Spiders is kind of stupid since any fandom can have a post that'll have a spider in it, somewhere.

Pretty much this. Except I like non-warning tags for organization's sake.

I don't really get why people tag things as #tw:blood instead of just #blood. It makes one more thing to blacklist instead of one.

...But blacklisting 'blood' will also blacklist 'tw:blood'.

Also 'true blood','kess bloodysunday','purebloods', and anything else containing 'blood'.

They're not the same, but they are related.

A phobia is, by definition, an irrational fear of something that may or may not have an event or experience as a cause. Acrophobia (fear of heights) isn't necessarily going to be caused by having been held by your ankles upside down over the edge of the Grand Canyon. Some people are just scared of heights. A trigger is something specific that causes a response because it relates back to a specific event that was particularly traumatic or threatening. If you had been held over the edge of the Grand Canyon by your ankles and were subsequently afraid of riding on Ferris Wheels, the being up high would be the trigger and fear of heights would be the phobia.

Yes, there is.

As in I've had phobias but not triggers. the one can exists without the other. From what I understand trigger can also refer to something that makes you relive a traumatic event (and phobias are not necessarily cause by trauma).

Eh, warning for phobias is a slippery slope. Even moreso than warning for triggers.

People can be phobic of anything.

ANYTHING.

they aren't always the same but for many people with certain phobias, they can easily be triggered by mention of or exposure to those phobias. a phobia is an irrational fear or aversion to something, whereas a trigger is generally accepted to be something that will push someone into an intense/damaging emotional response. it's usually predated by a traumatic past event but doesn't have to be. for instance i know a lot of people who have mild to severe emotophobia (fear of vomit/vomiting) and anything that references that act can set them off just like a more "standard" trigger. they're two different things, i agree, but they are often intertwined. thus, i think it's appropriate to (or rather, would be inappropriate NOT to) warn for fairly common phobias. anything that can cause emotional, mental or physical harm to the readers should be warned for beforehand, imo.

ETA: within reason obviously. i wouldn't expected people to tag/warn for something like dogs maybe?? i guess that's pretty common but... i guess just use common sense. at the very least don't go out of your way to hurt people.

Edited 2013-09-03 23:50 (UTC)

About the warning for dogs, I've seen posts on cute animal comms where posters rudely demanded that the OP put non-cuddly animals behind a cut

I'm of reasoning that if spiders and snakes have to go behind a cut because of phobias then all animals should go behind a cut

I...don't think they're the same? I'm afraid of spiders, but I don't freak out if I see/read about one online. I suffer with Misophonia, though, and am triggered by certain sounds. The reaction is much different, as I can not be around the triggers, period.

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