[ SECRET POST #2437 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2437 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 024 secrets from Secret Submission Post #348.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[lieu]

i'm not operating out of some sense of feminist tumblr social justice crusading, fyi, in case that's what's coming across. i'm a grouchy shipper complaining on the internet because i get tired of seeing people fall for slash ship after slash ship and not paying attention to anything else, and i'm trying to understand why it's what fandoms will jump on in a big way nine times out of ten. never claimed to have any deeper motivation than that.

women in ships and being romantic and shippy is like the default in het everywhere, so i'm less interested in it

this comment was where i pulled the observation of being (un-)progressive from, btw. you're probably right, i might have been projecting a bit, but this whole discussion is about gender relations so to say that i'm "conflating my agenda" ("my agenda" basically being "why doesn't anyone care about my awesome ships goddammit" not like, "rah rah misandry," for the record) in a conversation about gender is a bit questionable. people play liberal olympics every-fucking-where in fandom (and on f!s) so it's not completely out of left field, and the comment read to me like its author was trying to defend their preference of slash as some pseudo-feminist action, whether or not that's what the author actually intended.

but i do think it's valuable to actually have an honest conversation about shit like this rather than just having it be an echo chamber for people to repeat the same arguments that always come up. i may be totally off base in my points, i'm not a trained professional in internet infighting, but i think there are legitimate questions to be asked about why situations like the OP's secret happen all the time.

the core of what i'm wondering is like: i go into mainstream media, and most shows revolve around dudes. i go into fandom, and fandom's tastes revolve around dudes. what gives, man. what factors are at work here.