[ SECRET POST #2440 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2440 ⌋

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Comments

Re: I don't get it

[diet_poison]

I don't think that analogy really works. Part of the definition of Catholicism, to my understanding, is recognition of the Vatican as an authority. Israel isn't a religious authority to all Jews the way the Vatican is for Catholics.

A better example would be that many Catholics don't identify as Italian, even though Catholicism originated there (before it was called Italy, obviously).

Re: I don't get it

[(Anonymous)]

But thats actually probably an even worse analogy, because Catholicism didn't really originate in Italy (as a distinct branch of Christianity, maybe, but it's still Christianity and had its origins in Israel). And even talking about Catholicism as a distinct branch of Christianity, it's not really especially Italian - it's the Latin church, it's composed of all the people who used the Latin rite, it just happened to be that the head of it is in Rome. Even from its origin it was present in lots of Western Europe.

Unless your point is that it's a flawed analogy? Not sure.

Re: I don't get it

[diet_poison]

I was actually speaking of Catholicism as a distinct branch, not of its origins in Christianity as a whole. In my experience many Catholics don't refer to themselves as part of Christianity as a whole, but as a distinct faith, anyway. (As a non-Catholic Christian I find this kind of annoying and elitist, but this is based on personal experience with some annoying individuals.)

Anyway, it definitely had an origin in Europe. You're right that it didn't originate in Italy - I got it mixed up with the Orthodox church in my head (the one that started when a Roman emperor became a Christian publicly).

My point about the Vatican and Israel, and their relations to their particular religions, still stands - especially because Judaism is as much an ethnic heritage as a religion, whereas Catholicism is not.