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Frankly, I think there's more in the books to lead to Harry/Ron than Harry/Hermione. Seriously, their friendship is just as intense, if not moreso.

Hah, I knew I wasn't the only one who came out shipping that

Ron was the thing Harry "held most dear" in GoF!

I don't think that actually says anything. All that means is that Dumbledore saw Ron as Harry's best friend. There is no evidence that any spell or something was used to figure out who was more dear to the champions. After all, Hermione was used for Krum. I think they just used what was available. Ron was one of Harry's two best friends, and Hermione was needed for Krum.

Mind you, I love the Harry/Ron relationship, think that at that point at least Harry was closer to Ron, and totally ship. But I don't think the "held most dear" thing says much of anything.

Then where did Fleurs little sister come from if they were just using what was close?

Wouldn't she be one of the Beauxbatons students who came? That would be my guess: she came to watch the tournament because she was Fleur's sister, even though she wasn't old enough to participate.

If they were bringing people from elsewhere, wouldn't they have brought, say, one of Krum's parents as his person even if he didn't have any close friends?

I thought she was about 7? Maybe it was just the person they felt most strongly about at that time. I mean Krum had a pretty big crush one Hermione.

I thought the family visit thing happened before the second task? So Gabrielle was there with her parents to visit Fleur?

Sure. But it's still a fun 'ship tease.

He was 14 in GoF. Of course his best friend was the "thing he held most dear". All of the other champions were older, so it made sense that their romantic interests were more dear (except in Fleur's case, since she didn't really have one at the time).

Oy. Yes. I realize all that. I just thought it was a fun bit of ship-tease for the comment I replied to.

ehhhhh, I guess? By that token any symbol of close friendship between characters could be a ship tease...

*sigh* I suppose I should have somehow marked that as being less than serious? I was riffing on the comment I replied to. That's it.

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diet_poison - 2013-09-09 05:11 (UTC) - Expand

Agreed. I'm not sure why it's such a rare ship in the fandom.

All the slashers seem to go for Draco/Harry for some reason. There is more hate and stalking there so I suppose they prefer drama. But everyone always has that as Ron/Hermione main complaint.

Shipping is strange

I think it's because a large number of people in fandom, if not half, if not most, are straight or straight leaning, so fucked up dynamics in het hits too close to home.

Also I just remembered Buffy and Spike and other het dramatic couples so scratch that, what you said: shipping is weird.

Rivals/hateships is a shipping dynamic as old as time. How is that 'strange' when it's the norm?

People like it when their ships butt heads--whether on a small scale or a much larger one. It's the getting past the parts of the other person that are distasteful that is half the fun.

Uhm I was going for the why is it bad with one couple and not with the other. Not rival shipping is weird.

Because Hermione and Ron are just friends (and later lovers) that bicker and Draco and Harry are two rivals who hate the shit out of each other.

Also, Draco/Harry, when nicely done imo, is a pairing about deconstructing the canon and showing that they are just different sides of the same coin. The dynamics between the two ships are not comparable, totally different, although wank between shippers is never justifiable and you could be shipping Harry with the Whomping Willow for all I cared.

Just yeah ... it's not that bickering is something to be scorned in one pairing and something that people like in the other it's just ... it's simply just not the same type of bickering.

Hermione and Ron act like 'a married couple' which is a trope some people like and others really dislike whereas Draco and Harry are always at each other's throat because both represent something that the other doesn't like (different values, different houses, different sides of the war, etc. etc.)

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(Anonymous) - 2013-09-09 23:21 (UTC) - Expand

Probably why I liked R/Hr, too. (I'm a H/D shipper.. :D)

It's FAR more intense than Harry and Hermione's.

ron is hard to write interestingly

how so?

Yep

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