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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-08 03:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #2441 ]


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Re: i'm not a feminism troll, i swear!

(Anonymous) 2013-09-09 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
It's going to be very hard for me to be polite here but I'm going to do it.

This line of reasoning is not particularly cogent because the two issues are separate issues. The argument the image seems to be making is this: if it is true that boners do not necessarily indicate consent and that men can't control their boners, then soldiers who are ordered to rape women are justified in excusing their behavior on the grounds that they were ordered to do so. This argument is not correct. The fact that, in general, men can become aroused when they don't want to does not mean that these specific men couldn't control their own arousal.

The confusion comes from the fact that you're trying to take a general argument and apply it to a specific case - but just because it's true in general, that doesn't mean that it's necessarily and always true in the specific. It's completely possible (and very likely) that, even though men in general can't always control their arousal, the people in this specific instance did have a choice in their actions. And I think that's the truth.

Pointing out that men can become aroused without consenting and that it's possible to rape men is not defending guys at the expense of women. It's simply not. And the fact is that men can become aroused without consent, and denying that is simply incorrect and untrue, and it also hurts male victims of abuse. So don't do it.