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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-08 03:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #2441 ]


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Re: What's a movie with characters who so blatantly caused their own problems as to lose all sympath

(Anonymous) 2013-09-09 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
The one Christmas movie. The banker who never gets to do what he wants and he hates it but he's also the one who keeps staying around when he could always let someone else handle it and go on a holiday.

no sympathy.

Re: What's a movie with characters who so blatantly caused their own problems as to lose all sympath

(Anonymous) 2013-09-09 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Wellllll....sort of, except for the fact that the whole point of the movie is him having an epiphany that he has been a whiny moron because the fact that he always took care of things instead of letting "someone else" (the only option for "someone else" always being Potter, who would have turned the town into a cheap nasty Vegas-y entertainment strip and destroyed all residential development and investment in it, or his brother, who would have had to sacrifice his career and give up a good job to support his new wife), means he's earned friends and love and support that far outstrips any enjoyment he would have gotten out of a vacation?

So....do you have no sympathy for people who sacrifice their own desires for other peoples' benefit? Because people should be selfish and only work to satisfy their own whims all the time?

Or because people should only do good things that inconvenience them if they're some kind of flawless pure saint who never feels frustration at having their own desires go unmet, because it's worse to be a whiny moron who still does good things than to follow your whims and let your friends and town go rot (which would make him miserable anyway)?

Unless you just meant you were too irritated at George's self-pity and complaining about the universe not being fair to be sympathetic? Because that I can understand, and it's sort of the whole point of the movie, but, uh, he clearly couldn't just let "someone else handle it" in good conscience, given the options he had, so he wasn't the one causing his own problems as per the subject line (though yeah, he was the one causing his own misery).

Re: What's a movie with characters who so blatantly caused their own problems as to lose all sympath

(Anonymous) 2013-09-09 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

yeah sure try and put words into my mouth from my two line description. jfc I forgot that no-one ever can dislike that stupid movie because ~oh heart warming classic~.

it was a load of crap. the entire movie was a piece of shit and the main character especially. He was complaining endlessly about not getting to do a multitude of things. I have no sympathy for him because he chose to do those things.

I have no sympathy for people who choose to devote their whole life to helping others then complain about it the entire time. He didn't have to do all the things he did, he had opportunities. He could have gone on a holiday. It's not like he had a strict either-or thing happening.

But you clearly prefer to write a bunch of paragraphs telling me that my views have to be one of three choices and that I'm a person without sympathy for other's because I have no sympathy for that stupid main character

yup. sure.

He caused his own misery.
I have no sympathy for him.
He had options, he didn't take them, he caused his own misery.
No. sympathy.
Also the movie was a trite piece of shit, but this is about the fact I have no sympathy for the dude who caused his own problems and you're gonna have to deal with that and maybe try not to accuse me of lacking sympathy for others.