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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-09 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2442 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2442 ⌋

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Re: why is pansexuality ok and demisexuality not?

(Anonymous) 2013-09-10 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
if bisexuality excludes trans people wouldn't hetero or homosexuality do the same thing. And doesn't that imply that trans men and women aren't real men and women, but some kind of third gender? isn't that just shitty to everyone?
I also dispute your definition of "general populace".

Re: why is pansexuality ok and demisexuality not?

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2013-09-10 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
The whole language is tainted with assumptions of duality and dichotomy. Singling out the bisexual community for reclaiming the language used to marginalize us while using roots like homo-, hetero-, -sexual, trans-, and -gendered (and glossing over the fact that "pansexual" comes to us from Freudian psychology to describe something very different from how it's currently used) strikes me as a big problem.

Re: why is pansexuality ok and demisexuality not?

(Anonymous) 2013-09-10 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Neither bisexuality nor homosexuality (nor heterosexuality, for that matter) inherently exclude trans people, but individual bi, gay, lesbian, and hetero people sometimes do. Many queer spaces are inclusive, sure, but not all of them.

One of the most transphobic individuals I've ever had the misfortune to deal with was a bi guy.

Re: why is pansexuality ok and demisexuality not?

(Anonymous) 2013-09-10 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, 'not wanting to date trans people' is not inherent to any sexuality. I know a trans woman who called herself 'gynosexual' instead of lesbian, because she would never date another trans woman.