[ SECRET POST #2442 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2442 ⌋

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Comments

[cbrachyrhynchos]

i'm correcting a person based on their own flawed account of queer history and their erasure of homosexual progress in these matters.

Ok, you know what bisexual people did when we got token inclusion into GLB groups? We used our foot in the door for arguing for trans* inclusion. We had one of the few trans* and genderqueer-inclusive coalitions on the March on Washington, and at every step along the way we defined our support groups and activism to be inclusive of and supportive of trans* and genderqueer people and politics as well.

That's history, and you don't get to erase that in order to go off on an anti-bisexual rant.

[saku]

i'm not anti-bisexual. i'm anti-gender binary. anybody who agrees with the binary system sucks fmpov. right now we're just talking about bisexual adherence to the system though because you brought up bisexuals specifically. we can talk about a more broad approach if you'd like.

[insanenoodlyguy]

So if a boy likes playing with trucks, and a girl likes her pretty dresses and her barbies, they are inherently bad people?

[saku]

no. i would feel bad for them if they played with the toys they played with because they felt they were supposed to. crushing the gender binary isn't about reversing the binary?? it's about choice without judgment.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

It seems to me that you're fighting the wrong people in attacking bisexual people and organizations for using inclusive definitions.

[saku]

i'm not fighting you for using inclusive definitions. i am fighting the notion that all bisexual people use this definition, because that is not even close to being the case.

[chardmonster]

Which you have no proof of except the people you hang out with, who might be jerks.

[saku]

what kind of proof do you want, exactly? of course there are bisexual people who align themselves with the gender binary. i mean it's not just from my experience, though that's primarily been the basis of my opinions, which you can't really blame me for. countering a sweeping generalisation doesn't need much more.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

I think we've finally reached a point of consensus.