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⌈ Secret Post #2442 ⌋

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Comments

Re: why is pansexuality ok and demisexuality not?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that gay and straight people were considered more open or anything. I just find it weird that there's all this scrutiny over bi people and people going as far as saying that just being bi makes you transphobic. I don't really get why all the pressure is on bi people, it seems to me that while none of those orientations specifically include trans people none of them rule it out either, and that's all on the individual. I just don't understand these sweeping generalizations about who people must be attracted to and pushing people to change their labels.

Re: why is pansexuality ok and demisexuality not?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think anyone is accusing bi people of being transphobic? People are saying the term "bisexual" will sometimes be read/intended as "cis men and cis women only," and is being used by a lot of transphobic people, which is a problem and which is making "bisexual" a label that some people avoid, opting to go for "pan" instead- not accusing all bisexual person of being phobic by using the label. Then bisexual people are taking it as an attack on them, and thinking all bisexuals are being called transphobic when they're not.

Even if a person is only attracted to cispeople, they aren't transphobic they merely aren't sexually attracted, anyways.

Re: why is pansexuality ok and demisexuality not?

[(Anonymous)]

I guess my problem is that most of the pansexual people I've encountered have been on tumblr, where it seemed like they started identifying as pan to show how accepting they were and then declared that bi people were enforcing the gender binary and also transphobic for saying there were only two genders to be attracted to. I know nobody in this thread was saying that but that's what I've seen more often than the situation you described.

Re: why is pansexuality ok and demisexuality not?

[(Anonymous)]

This. I'm not assuming that bi people are any more trans-excluding and/or transphobic than the general population, I'm just not assuming that they're any less.

Re: why is pansexuality ok and demisexuality not?

[(Anonymous)]

sameanon

And I think the scrutiny here is on bisexuals because bisexuals are supposed to be the open ones, except a whole bunch of people who identify as bisexual aren't, and are spreading the idea that bisexual need only mean attraction to ciswomen and cismen. Those people are the ones causing the issue and the incorrect way other people perceive bisexuality.

As for why not gay/straight, the gay/straight thing already has such deep roots in cis individuals and cis body parts that assuming a gay or straight person will be open to non-binary individuals is likely to end up in a bad time. Again it may not and they may be open to attraction but chances are too low to presume they are.