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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-09 06:40 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-10 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
Bisexual- attraction to two or more genders.

trans men are men, and trans women are women, and you don't need a new word to include them

genderqueer falls under "or more" which how i've seen plenty of people define bisexuality. even if they didn't who said the distinct genders a bisexual is attracted to are men and women.
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[personal profile] saku 2013-09-10 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
transgender people who fall under the gender binary are not the people i am talking about. i made it very clear many times that transgender people are not always nonbinary because they are scarcely intertwined. but intersex people exist. nonbinary people exist. in many cases the bisexual community, the parts that i have seen and the people i have encountered, do not acknowledge this, or worse, deliberately don't include them.

it's great that many bisexual people don't do this. i'm happy to see some of the bi population in this community speak out about it. but there is a lack of consensus in their own community, even if caused by a small number of people. so long as the bisexual label doesn't include nonbinary people to some bisexuals, the need for a clearer label is evident. pansexual people are, apparently to many, just bisexual people who don't like the label. there's a reason why, and it has to do with "other" bisexual people not being inclusive.
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2013-09-10 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
You really need to stop basing your arguments on your own personal anecdotal evidence.
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[personal profile] saku 2013-09-10 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
my experience applies here as it's painted both my views of a part of the bisexual community and helped influence my own choice of label. i am not using my experience in an attempt to prove something objective or factual. i am explaining how those experiences have shaped my views.
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2013-09-10 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
i am not using my experience in an attempt to prove something objective or factual.

That's not how it comes across in any way.
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[personal profile] saku 2013-09-10 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
you're misinterpreting my posts then and i'm sorry for causing confusion. from my first comment, my point has been that i use a specific label due to negative experiences with those of another label that may otherwise apply to me, and because the community is not consistent in its definition, i've opted to use a clearer term for myself. this isn't an academic paper.