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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-09 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2442 ]


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[personal profile] saku 2013-09-10 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
i know pansexuality did not arise as a response to lack of inclusion in the bisexual community. but the reason the label persists as it does today, as a sexuality rather than a descriptor, is because people find it necessary. it does not have the precise meaning as it did throughout other parts of history. it has evolved to compensate for a lack of inclusion in another area, and here we are.

i'm not saying your community/history/etc are irrelevant. they are actually really damn relevant to this discussion. and i am not against being labeled as bisexual, which i mentioned elsewhere in this thread, if applied using your definition of bisexuality, because that is more or less what i am. the label itself does not matter so much as the definition behind it, as that is what is describing me. if i am bisexual by your definition then great. if i am not bisexual by others' definitions then wowie, cool. i have opted to refer to myself with a different label entirely because this issue, one where some folks would consider me bisexual and others would not, is so prevalent still. i've met little personal objection in the term i've chosen; the most has been from you actually, and i get your disdain for the label but i still find it valuable.

this: "The elephant in the room there is endemic anti-bisexual prejudice in the larger culture. Identifying as pan, omni, or queer doesn't change the fact that I'm categorized, discriminated against, bashed, assaulted, and my property vandalized due to anti-bisexual prejudice"
applies to me as well, though i'd take it a step further (and i imagine this also applies to you) and add that these prejudices stem from queer hate on top of that. the fact of the matter is that people like us are continuously categorised as greedy, confused, attention wh*res, wh*res in general and then some, on top of standard gay slurs (and for me this also includes transphobic slurs). the way i identify is not to minimise prejudice i face. it is more so for me and for others, to help understand my identity. we are all going to be misunderstood/misinterpreted by some people at some point; for instance i initially misinterpreted what bisexuality meant to you and many others in the community, unaware that inclusion was as commonplace as it seems to be, and others here have misunderstood what it means to me to be pansexual. whichever label i opt to take is not going to erase prejudice i face. i am not identifying based on "feels." i am identifying based on who i am.