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[Sailor Moon]

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[Taken]

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[Hetalia]

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[Amanda Palmer and Paula Deen]

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Anyone here who likes any alternate histories? As in, novels and discussions and what not?

I'm currently hooked to a forum timeline called Malê Rising and it is 142 pages full of deliciousness and awesome. Basically, it's "what if industrialization kickstarted early in Africa, circa 1940's?" It's detailed, it's understanding, and it doesn't drop too much into depressing empire-building or over-optimism.

I also have several books about the outcome of the First World War but so far, nothing else. So, anyone here who likes alternate timelines too?

I love alternate timelines!! Star Wars Infinities has their own "what if?" for each of the original three movies

But obviously that's what you meant. I liked S.M. Stirling's "Conquistador" where the white man finds America in 1945. What happens there is that Alexander the Great lives and changes the course of the modern world. In 1945, a man in San Francisco/Oakland finds a gate/portal to this other dimension and creates his own society. Quite interesting.

You might like the game Chrononauts.

Interested on the Conquistador. Is it a book or a forum timeline?

It's a book. I found it at my library because I had been checking what I have dubbed "Doomsday books" where current society collapses (Usually due to losing power and electronics no longer work) S.M. Stirling has a long series about that and I decided to check out Conquistador because I enjoyed his writing.

Do alternate histories with mild (or not so mild) fantasy elements count?

I read The Years of Rice And Salt ('what if the Black Plague wiped out 90% of Europe and Asia, India, and the Middle East were the major world powers?'- also, reinicarnation) a while back and I remember enjoying it, and I've just recently started getting into His Majesty's Dragon ('what if the Napoleonic Wars had dragons?').

...I'm interested in mundane alt histories as well, but those are the only ones I've read thus far.

Wow, 'Rice and Salt' sounds awesome, and also something i've thought about and even wrote about, in a sort of sideways way, in a fic ages ago.
I'm going to have to give that a look-see.

Agreeing with user name=tabaqui, Rice and Salt sounds awesome.

And His Majesties Dragon sounds like either the worst crackfic that's ever be written or the most awesome thing to have arrived since sliced bread.

I'm not a fan of the genre in particular, but I can rec Barry Longyear (anything of his) and Howard Waldrop's "Them Bones" -- though the latter might not really be "alternate history" per se, it's still a good read.

The Difference Engine is probably "the" SF/F "alt history" thing to read from recent memory, but although I've picked it up a dozen times over the years, I've never managed to get into it. Maybe soon. Gibson's short story (published in Burning Chrome) titled The Gernsback Continuum is also quite good, though again not really straight alt-history, more of a looking-at-it-out-of-the-corner-of-your-eye type of alt-history. (Which would be the kind I prefer.)

Also "The Cornelius Chronicles" by Michael Moorcock, but that work is...definitely for adults. And more character-driven than plot-heavy, which may not be what you are looking for, IDK. Dead-on deadeye satire, though. (Sorry to those who've read the series, the pun is unintended.)

Slaughterhouse Five by Vonnegut, could arguably be called alt-history. 1984 IS alt-history at this point, albeit long after the fact. And not really as "alternate" as one might like.....

Sorry, that's all I've got, but like I say, it's not really something I actively seek out to read.

I love them, myself, but sadly i haven't really found a lot of them that i enjoy. Way too many 'the south won the Civil War' kind of things out there and whatnot. But it *is* a very cool genre.

At the risk of sounding like a pushy fanboy, I would like to point you to the forum timeline of my current fixation: http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=226788

North wins, but doesn't get Hawaii. The Romanovs are overthrown and are exiled to Eritrea, Jules Verne is the president of France, West Africa is undergoing Industrial Evolution, and Teddy Roosevelt is gay.

Also, it's 1840s, not 1940's. My bad.

P.S: There's also a map of the timeline's world circa 1900 if you just want to see how much has changed: http://fav.me/d6jpivf

Edited 2013-09-11 01:32 (UTC)

Sounds interesting! Thanks for the link. :)

you're welcome.

I love the Shadow of Albion series.

"Thrust into a volatile world where King Henry IX rules over the English Empire, America never revolted, and Napoleon Bonaparte marches unchecked across Europe, is young Sarah Cunningham, ripped from our history by magic and the machinations of the dying Duchess of Roxbury.
Magically coerced into believing she is Roxbury, Sarah finds herself caught up with the Duke of Wessex, the King's most trusted spy. A perilous adventure takes them into the black heart of Imperial France to rescue a missing princess before the last chance for peace dissolves and the world is left at the mercy of Napoleon...."

it sounds like it could be treacly romance, but actually aside from the intricacies of the plot the writers don't devote too much time to the characters' emotions.

I love what ifs. They make me happy. I mostly see it done in TV though and the very few I know of in books don't appeal to me, unfortunately.

If you like forum timeline alternate histories I could link you to one. :)

I've never read a forum alternate timeline before. I'm always willing to try new things. May I please have the link?

Here: http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=226788

It's an ongoing alternate timeline that diverges from our world around the 1840's when a group of rebelling African Muslim slaves were transported en masse from Brazil back to Africa (based on a true revolt). Thing is, these people know a thing or two about starting up a factory from all their years being slaves, and so the butterfly effect takes place...

If you don't want to sift through the discussions (although they do flesh out the world of the timeline and provide the reasons for the events), here's a list of all the posts all the way to 1895, although the current timeline is in the year 1900. I think that after the latest update you have to go onwards page by page.

There's also a map of the timeline's world circa 1900 if you just want to see how much has changed: http://fav.me/d6jpivf

Thank you very much for all of the information and the links. I'll definitely look at it all. It looks exciting.

You're welcome. :)

I'm sort of obligated to for reasons relating to my family but would rather not say why here... PM me if ya want.

But anyway, yes I do! I highly recommend Jo Walton's Small Change trilogy (Farthing, Ha'Penny, Half a Crown), which has recently been republished in pretty new trade paperbacks by the Tor Forge imprint. Three AH mysteries in a world where the UK and Nazi Germany formed a lasting peace in 1941. (The divergence point is the US denying Britain lend-lease aid.) First two are set in 1949 as an MP's murder is the final step in the establishment of outright British fascism. Book 3 is set in 1960. Anyway, it's a criminally under-appreciated series with a chillingly plausible scenario and some just lovely writing.

Thanks for the recommendation!

The first mainstream AH novel I ever read was SS-GB by Len Deighton. In it, the UK is being occupied by the Nazis and the title references the branch of the SS that handles the area. The king is being held in the Tower. Not a bad book at all.

I really wish there was a fic page for people who wrote alt history.

Huh, thanks for the info.

And yeah, really wishing for a fic page for alternate history writers too.

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