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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-15 03:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #2448 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-09-15 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I love to engage in fantasies and pretend-play, but I will never get otherkin. I think it's possible to enjoy the concept without believing it's true.

Otherkin who really truly 'feel' phantom tails (and are not just hypnotizing themselves into feeling them) should seek help from a therapist. I don't mean to mock them. I'm seriously thinking that some of those 'otherkin' are just really sick of their (human) life and no one should have to feel this way.
I realize they are not physically harming anyone in believing they used to be fairies and unicorns in past lives, but how can you enjoy your existence like that? Always yearning to take the form of something you're not?

(Also, I have met a bunch of otherkin in the past who used to explain their state by comparing it to actual trans* people and that's just... no.)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-15 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
If the people you knew were trying to claim that they were oppressed by comparing themselves to trans* people, I can see why you'd find that objectionable. But it sounds like you also object to explaining the concept of otherkin (someone who believes themselves to be/identifies as something other than their physical body would suggest to others) by analogizing it to being trans*?

(Anonymous) 2013-09-15 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Ehh, supernumerary phantom limbs are an actual medical phenomenon, entirely outside of 'being sick of human life'. I'm not saying they're mutually exclusive, but it's a brain glitch that also pops up in people who have never felt anything but human.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2013-09-15 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
What if it's an otherkin who IS trans? (Strictly speaking, he* was a furry--he didn't believe that he'd ever been an animal--but he said the phantom feeling of the tail and the phantom feeling of the, er, not-a-tail were similar.)

*FTM

(Anonymous) 2013-09-15 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I get that otherkin comparing themselves to transgender is bad and appropriative, but I can see why they'd feel the need to, given the massive amount of hate they get. "Yiff in hell, furfag!" is one of the few points of agreement between 4chan trolls and SJWs. I've never really understood the furry hate, and in my experience, shitting on them for appropriating trans* issues has always seemed like a justification for already disliking them rather than an actual objection. And no, I'm not otherkin.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-16 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
...Otherkin =/= furry. While there is some overlap, there are huge parts of the furry community that aren't otherkin. Trust me on that, I've been apart of that community off and on since I was 12 [and I'm 25, going on 26, now.]

(Anonymous) 2013-09-17 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
Bingo. The furry/otherkin hate doesn't necessarily stem from a direct hatred of their beliefs, but rather the constant need for validation you see so often from those circles. It's never enough that they believe they're a fox or demon or whatnot (which is fine; everyone can believe what they want).

They have to reiterate to everyone that their belief is totally objective and as valid as that of members of the transgender community. Which is of course BS.

You are not some mystical being in human form; you are a human that liked the thought of said thing so much that you began to internalize it, and feed it, and over time, you bought the lie. The claims of phantom limbs certainly have the potential to be valid as a kind of manifestation of that belief. The human mind is a really powerful thing.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-16 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
Otherkin who really truly 'feel' phantom tails (and are not just hypnotizing themselves into feeling them) should seek help from a therapist.

There hasn't been a day in my life that I've considered myself anything other than human, but I still feel phantom limbs on the days my sensory receptors decide they want to do cartwheels. It's not an indication that they require therapy, it's just mild neurological wackiness.