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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-15 03:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #2448 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-09-16 10:52 am (UTC)(link)
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I actually find Russia one of the most heartbreakingly tragic Hetalia characters -- and the actual history of the country of Russia breaks my heart in a similar way. A beautiful country with a noble culture that has been scarred by years of unimaginable suffering, of which he has been both the giver and receiver. :(

Ivan himself is a paradox -- he is both beautiful and terrible, both the abuser and the abused. He desperately wants happiness but his efforts are sabotaged by his own instability and cruelty. I feel like, tragically, this represents some facets of Russian history quite well.

(Of course Hetalia is srs business and all, and fans should never equate the character with the IRL country or consider them to be the same at all. I just see some rather poignant things in Russia's Hetalia portrayal.)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-16 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)
IA, and, if you ask me, I think that Hetalia!Russia would've been a very accurate portrayal if it was at all possible to view a country as an entity/a person. As it is, I try to avoid personifying countries, because collective consciousness, collective blame, and, in fact, any kind of collective emotion/action are all very questionable concepts.

That being said, I absolutely do understand where you are coming from, and I often feel sad about certain aspects of our history and our culture - even if, in the light of my dislike for generalizations, the sentiment is a bit irrational. Only a week ago I went to see a stage performance of Heart of a Dog (its main protagonists, Preobrazhensky and Bormenthal, are my favourite Russian characters ever, and I find their friendship absolutely epic), and the culture of the Soviet thirties, the intellegentsia suffering in the changing social and political climate, the old-fashioned language all made me go dfnefewkjgbjrgbkgb. Especially since I know very well where the whole Communist cause came from - from the same kind of intellegentsia folks, the members of the liberal parties in the Tsar's times.
I've always thought that Preobrazhensky and Bormenthal probably got arrested in the end, and it is damn heartbreaking.

And Ivan is a very tragic character, too, and he's certainly not a two-dimensional insane maniac with no human side.