[ SECRET POST #2449 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2449 ⌋

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Comments

[insanenoodlyguy]

I'm pretty sure Bored_bitch understands emotion.

She just can't fathom why anybody'd get this emotional about this sort of thing (please correct me if I' wrong b_b)

[(Anonymous)]

Sociopaths are capable of emotion too. I'm not internet-diagnosing either, but it's not like anyone's saying she's INCAPABLE of it, just has a massive disconnect and doesn't care or feel empathy. I feel tons of emotions and I might not feel the same things about the same stuff some people do but I can UNDERSTAND and EMPATHIZE that their experience is different than mine and their feelings are completely valid and make sense to them and that's okay. B_B DOES seems incapable of this, or simply unwilling. If not a sociopath then just kind of an ass.

[(Anonymous)]

On the contrary, as an anon who has investment in this fight (and who has overinvested in fictional characters as a coping mechanism in the past), bored_bitch seems sane, capable of empathy and notsociopathic in the least. Blunt maybe, but not sociopathic. In fact, the person in this argument claiming that anyone who can't completely understand unhealthy overidentification is mentally abnormal is perhaps the one who is mentally abnormal.

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nayrt

I think some level of identification with things is fairly common. And I don't think that some level of identification is necessarily harmful or abnormal. Certainly to the level that OP does it, it's harmful, but I don't think that getting at least a little defensive about things you really identify with is all that strange. And the thing that's been kind of difficult or confusing in this conversation is that b_b does not seem to acknowledge the validity of any kind of identification at all.

That said, I don't think b_b is sociopathic, and I think the person saying that is kind of out of line.

[nyxelestia]

That's pretty much how I understand it.

Yes, I know that some people get extremely emotionally invested in their characters, and I could probably even give you the series of events and circumstances that lead to it...but I can't comprehend it myself. For me, the best comparison is the way most people might look at a spree-shooter/killer - we know what happened, and we can often pinpoint how or why (i.e. mental disorders, life conditions, environment, circumstances, etc). But we can't actually fathom it or comprehend it for ourselves, or empathize with them.

(Before anyone tries it, I'm not trying to imply that emotional fans and spree killers are on the same plane in any capacity - that level of emotional disconnect is just the best analogy I could come up with on the spot. I understand fans a hell of a lot more than I understand school shooters; it's just that while they are drastically different in terms of scale, the style of understanding is pretty much the same.)

But then, I've been called a sociopath before. I'd believe it if it weren't for the fact my initial reaction to seeing someone struggling with anything is to start throwing solutions at them until they accept one or tell me to shut up. Oddly enough, many people have told me that my lack of emotionalism has made me easy to talk to and seek advice from - because I already have to put other people's emotions into lists and flowcharts in my head in order to understand them, it's easy for me to lay out other people's emotions and thought-processes in a way that's helpful to them. (If I had a dollar for every time someone told me to become a shrink or counselor of some sort, I could probably afford the school fees to go and become one.)

[(Anonymous)]

You said it. That's...a terrible analogy...

[nyxelestia]

Only one I could think of on the spot. *shrugs* In my defense, I was sitting in my school library right where there was a shooting just last semester, and this week's school newspaper lead article was talking about changes in school security in the aftermath of the shooting, so it was kind of on my mind at the time.