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[(Anonymous)]

I think math would be appreciated more if we had more great math teachers worldwide. In my experience, most of them suck and fail to get the basics across. Or just outright tell their students that they think they're dumb and won't get it anyway (true story).

After I had two great math teachers in a row I came to like it quite a bit. At least you had something to do during classes.

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[(Anonymous)]

I hated math for six years after arithmetic time-tests made me freeze up in early grade school, and I was convinced I was bad at it. I still haven't forgiven my second-grade teacher for that.

[(Anonymous)]

I say this all the time. With math it's all about building upon previous knowledge. You learn the basics and steadily build, each step not necessarily that difficult. But get ONE shitty teacher and you get derailed. And then it becomes a huge uphill climb, the challenges become almost insurmountable, and people lose all faith in their abilities at the subject.

So basically we need to make sure math teachers don't suck, and people might actually like it. Math really SHOULD be one of the easiest subjects.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep, yep. I went from Ds to As once I realized that hey, math is probably the simplest subject at school I'll ever get! Actually, I use it nowadays to cure headaches. The repetitiveness is super soothing.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

You learn the basics and steadily build, each step not necessarily that difficult.
I never got this growing up. My family moved a lot and I missed huge chunks of the progression I would have gotten (assuming no shitty teachers) if I'd gone to the same school/district my whole life. I failed pre-algebra in 7th grade and had to take it again in 8th grade where I was in a new school district and had an awesome teacher. I was falling in love with math that year. Then the next year I took geometry and had a shitty teacher and barely scraped by. Algebra 1 and 2 (10th and 11th grades) were the absolute worst though because I had the same teacher for both years and she was terrible and condescending and I didn't understand anything and she made fun of us all in class every day because we were a year behind the other kids in our grade. They took Algebra 2 in 10th grade and trigonometry in 11th. We were a remedial class and she hated us. I never took another math class again since I had all the credits I needed to graduate and then I didn't go to college.

[khronos_keeper]

I want to cry quietly in the corner about what may have been, because I can definitely attest to this.

I quite like math. Love statistics, love algebra, probably would calculus if I took it, but up until middle/high school, math seemed to be some completely alien language that I couldn't begin to comprehend.

But I'm sure this was mostly because I grew up in an impoverished school district, and the textbooks we used had frequent and blatant mistakes in their calculations. And if the teachers (not great teachers to begin with) were teaching to the textbook (as they were, thanks to No Child Left Behind), then students were left with absolute shit for a learning experience.

It took me til graduate school to realize that I actually like math. :(

[(Anonymous)]

It's never too late!

It's like music. It may be harder to learn later in life, but it's REALLy never too late. Seriously. I know lots of musicians who started in adulthood who are passionate about it.

It's very unfortunate though that you never got to discover this love for a subject until so late, anon. I feel you! The school system is just... bad. It's designed in a really horrible, horrible way. It's a game of luck. And so many students are even just discouraged from attending school in the first place because of social issues. We've got loads to learn in North America. I'm assuming that's where you're from.

[(Anonymous)]

Hah, sorry, you're not an anon. I just didn't see an icon and assumed. Sorry!

[starphotographs]

You know, I've known a few people who love math, and a few who hate it, but it actually seems like it's just kind of almost a bodily function for most people. It's very easy for them, but they don't have much of an opinion either way.

(Which interests me, in a "WTF WHAT IS THIS WITCHCRAFT!?" kind of way. DO THAT TRICK WHERE YOU KNOW HOW MANY THINGS THERE ARE WITHOUT COUNTING!)

[forgottenjester]

Very true. And catching up takes so much extra work.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. I thought I was terrible at math for years, because it didn't come naturally to me the way that English and social sciences do. Imagine my surprise when I got into a college algebra class and started making As because the professor communicated in a way that made sense to me. Then made 100s on every test in statistics, because stats is so very "use your logic, then plug in numbers" that it meshed well with the way I was already trained to think through social science.

I still don't especially *like* math (though I do love stats, for aforementioned science reasons), but I no longer feel like I am painfully stupid or trying to decode an alien language when I see an equation.

[(Anonymous)]

Amen to that. I had a terrible math teacher for three years straight, and I didn't learn a single thing from him because he was so incompetent at teaching.

Meanwhile a substitute-teacher that taught us for a single fortnight taught us more in those 2 weeks than our usual teacher did.

[(Anonymous)]

Haha, this is true. I've had really awful teachers to really great ones (I've done.. a lot of math >.>) and it makes all the difference. In college it's all too true that some math profs don't get the basics across and it can get bad. Math gets really complicated really fast and if you miss any key steps it's kind of '....WTF.'

I am sad I couldn't ever finish 3rd year differential equations. Not sure whether to blame my prof, though.

[littlestbirds]

I read once that people who go into elementary education are often the same people who hate/struggle with math, and they pass that anxiety and lack of understanding on to their students. I just googled it and apparently now there are studies about female teachers influencing female students' math confidence as well...