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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-18 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2451 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2451 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-19 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
That's according to Kinsey, whose studies (apart from being now sixty years out of date) have been criticized for disproportionately relying on self-reports from prison inmates. More recent large-scale studies have suggested this is an overestimate and it's actually closer to 4%. (Not that I particularly trust studies to accurately measure anything that's so sensitive and subjective, anyway.)
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[personal profile] volta_arovet 2013-09-19 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, but that'd still be about 1 in 20 characters, which is not nearly what I see, and for the queer characters, it's still disproportionately gay men rather than lesbians.

It says something that the only time we've seen a well-depicted lesbian couple on tv was in an anime called Bodacious Space Pirates.

No really.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-19 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
The sitcom Still Standing has a lesbian couple for I think a season, living next door to the main family. The parents in this show are jerks so the husband makes the typical "hot" comments and the wife says some well-intentioned but stupid things but that's the joke, and the writers did it well in my opinion. There was also an earlier episode where the older daughter had a lesbian teacher, and that was pretty good.

They are definitely minor characters though.

SA

(Anonymous) 2013-09-19 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Here I found their intro episode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6XnPTa4kwI
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[personal profile] volta_arovet 2013-09-19 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
It's nice to get some representation, and I'm sure it's well-intentioned, but gosh, I'm tired of that sort of thing as well.

In Bodacious Space Pirates (no really) the two lesbians are three-dimensional, totally competent and super entertaining, and when one of them rescues the other (or rather, after she rescues herself five minutes earlier) they MAKE THE FUCK OUT and the only joke there is about how strange it is for the two of them to be smooching while everyone else is awkwardly standing around, waiting for them to stop so they can launch their spaceship and go somewhere else.

And that shit is refreshing and we had no idea how much we needed to see an adorable couple and not have Being Gay be any sort of a Thing that needed to be commented on.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-19 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I get that, personally I think it's better done than other shows like this.
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[personal profile] anker 2013-09-19 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm definitely putting that on my list of things I need to watch. c:

(Anonymous) 2013-09-19 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Those surveys are based on identification of sexual orientation. And some people are hardly truthful when asked.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-19 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
until we have a culture that is entirely free of misogyny and homophobia, self-identifying to estimate how much of the population is LGB is at best nailing jello to a tree

(Anonymous) 2013-09-19 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Nobody can tell me that there are 96% of exclusively straight people on this planet. This gay woman here had sex with way too many ~straight~ girls in her lifetime.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-19 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Hell, this queer girl has had too many *relationships* with ~straight~ girls : /

(Anonymous) 2013-09-19 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
How adorable. Let me guess how you came to that conclusion: LGTB has four letters, so naturally that must mean 1% gays, 1% lesbians, 1% bisexuals and 1% trans* since people who are not like you just HAVE to be a super small minority.