[ SECRET POST #2453 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2453 ⌋

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Comments

[silverr]

Poor choice of words, right? Because I can't imagine you're claiming that programmers contribute to the quality of human life to the same degree that law enforcement and medical personnel do.

[(Anonymous)]

On no. You and the OP are right! The only professions that are at all worth while are the ones that save lives! Thank you, I have now seen the light!

[Though, you do *do* realize that- yes - programmers have, you know, programmed things that save lives, right? Or does that count in your weird, screwed up little world?]

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry you have issues, anon, but seriously, learn to read.

[silverr]

"The only professions that are at all worth while are the ones that save lives! "

No one claimed this, anon.

"you do *do* realize that- yes - programmers have, you know, programmed things that save lives, right?"

Actually, anon, I have been involved in software development -- including programming assistive technology -- for over 20 years. Which is why I said "to the same degree."

I'm sorry that this whole discussion was so triggering for you, anon. As I prefer to treat people with respect, I'll stop discussing the issue now, okay?

[(Anonymous)]

Law enforcement does not "save lives" to the same degree that medical personnel do. That's air traffic control, and maybe farmers.

Law enforcement generally are more concerned with protection of property or after-the-fact cleanup in their day-to-day dealings. Both of these are highly worthwhile pursuits, don't get me wrong. But they're more comparable maybe to that of engineers - who often but not always do live-saving things like inventing safer cars or building bridges that don't collapse - or, yes, programmers, who often but not always develop things that improve the work of other society-critical groups.

[silverr]

Point taken. I said "law enforcement" but I was thinking more of that aspect of police and fire where the officer's/fireman's life is at risk in saving the lives of others.

TBH, I was also having a knee-jerk reaction to the "twisted world" nonny. But I'm over that now.

[ill_omened]

But this isn't true.

Any decent law enforcement (which yes, can be an issue depending upon where you live) will have a massive emphasis upon proactive policing to stop violence and crime.

They also take control in almost any major incident as overall gold maximising life saved in a way a bit of CPR doesn't.

[(Anonymous)]

Any decent law enforcement (which yes, can be an issue depending upon where you live) will have a massive emphasis upon proactive policing to stop violence and crime.

Also known as harrassing citizens in many jurisdictions.

They also take control in almost any major incident as overall gold maximising life saved in a way a bit of CPR doesn't.

The police are certainly not in charge of organising rescue efforts during natural disasters - that's usually technical relief crews or firefighters.

[ill_omened]

If you're harassing citizens you're doing it wrong. Proactive here referring to effective use of crime mapping, proper deployment of high visibility patrols in the right areas at the right times, as well as plain clothes doing the same, effective intelligence gathering, and proper usage of stop and search (this is an absolutely invaluable tool if used right - but it does need to be used right with a decent positive result rate). Alongside a million other things. You could still argue 'my freeedoms' I suppose, but if you really want to go down that route you're going to argue yourself into anarchy.

Again this is something which is very dependent upon country, but in the UK outside of a few rare exceptions we have something called police primacy for major incidents. The police have the best communication infrastructure, experience of dealing with public order, and invariably their is an investigation element required.

[(Anonymous)]

I realize that in theory police is awesome. In practice, generally not so much - if they were in general pretty awesome they'd have way less trouble weeding out the supposed "few bad apples" than they do.