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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-21 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2454 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2454 ⌋

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[personal profile] fscom 2013-09-21 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
NS, NF, etc.

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forgottenjester: (Default)

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-09-21 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand the point of those kinds of warnings myself. It should be evident by the listed pairing(s).
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-09-21 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
.....what?
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[personal profile] littlestbirds 2013-09-21 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man, I haven't seen a "warning" for slash since I was on ff.net a decade ago.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
this

they are leftovers of times where young fans from more conservative times/places were dabbling in something that was sorta taboo by their real life cultural standards

only very old school fans and the newcomer fans that imitate everything they see ("first fic, be gentle", "lol I suck at summeries" "R & R please!") use those

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
"Disclaim"? Huh?
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[personal profile] sootyowl 2013-09-21 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember when people on LJ would do this constantly, even when they were posting in a slash community for said pairing. Those were the days.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-09-21 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I never even saw LJ people do it. I only saw it on FF.Net. I must be sheltered or something.
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[personal profile] sootyowl 2013-09-21 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
In the HP/anime fandoms it was everywhere. I saw warning for it constantly. Really stupid ones as well. Like "if you don't like buttsecks, don't click!"
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-09-21 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I was in a lot of anime fandoms. Still only saw most of that stuff on FF.Net. I must have gotten lucky.

I remember there being a lot of rants about it on FFR though.
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[personal profile] littlestbirds 2013-09-21 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember this too. Plenty of people who wrote it still saw slash as taboo and unnatural, so the warning would just be part of their header...

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I know people who warned just so they could preemptively get rid of some of the assholes would come into flame your story just for the slash relationship. You know the "EW that's fucking disgusting, those two characters are guyssss, they would never!" I don't know if it really worked or not.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-23 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's what I did, and still do to some extent. It honestly depends on the fandom and targeted age group of the source material. But I actually also warn for het pairings sometimes too so I don't know. I feel really self-conscious now on how I post. :/

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
...people still do this? I thought writers stopped doing this years ago.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-09-21 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
You sure you aren't just misunderstanding a tag?

Transcript of Not Secret - Warnings in fanfiction for slash

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-09-21 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
[Picture is the back of a person who is reaching with both hands the back of their head. They are shirtless.]

If fic authors disclaim warnings for homosexual relationships, they should add warnings for heterosexual ones too.

WARNING: MEN AND WOMEN MAINSTREAMING SEXUALITY FETISHIZING GENDER ROLE STEREOTYPES.
Edited 2013-09-21 21:01 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, because all het writing employs gender role stereotypes.

How 'bout NO.

Wait, I have an idea!

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe OP is referring to a new trend of warning for slash which potentially fetishizes homosexual relationships and/or presents questionable top/bottom semi-gender-related dynamic stuff!

...I haven't actually seen any warnings like this, but I've seen the issues argued about recently in fandom, which makes it a kind of plausible?
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[personal profile] caecilia 2013-09-21 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I used to do that, though. I warned for slash so that I could say "Hey, don't come crying to me that you don't like gay relationships, I warned you." and I warned for het because I wanted to be organized and consistent, and I figured I probably had some friends who didn't want to read it.

Now, I use tag or label for those things, and warnings are strictly for triggering or unpleasant content.
Edited 2013-09-21 23:00 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
This. Back when I first started writing fanfic, when dinosaurs roamed the earth, we didn't seperate warnings and tags-it all went under warnings. Plus if I warned for slash it was shorthand for "explicit sex content (with two men)", as opposed to het (same thing, m/f) and explicit sex is still something I'd warn for.

Never mind all the hate one used to get for not warning, even if your pairing was listed.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I swear people do that just so it feels more subversive or something to be posting gay porn.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
I dislike seeing slash warning, but I like when they "warn" for one particular slash couple in my fandom, because it's often lumped in as a default and I fucking HATE that pairing.

But otherwise yeah, it's kinda stupid to have to warn for slash... stupid but not surprising.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
There are "warnings," and there are "labels." Fandom too often conflates the two. It's stupid. Should het or slash be "warned" for? No. Should they be labeled? Yes--although one would think a pairing label would take care of that pesky detail.