[ SECRET POST #2454 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2454 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Hello, this is the previous poster, no longer an Anon

[(Anonymous)]

//There are prejudices in education against boys, and the widespread belief that men can't be raped or be physically damaged in the context of a relationship. Of course these are things that exist! And know what? Feminists know this, And are fighting against this kind of shit.//

Look, I appreciate anyone fighting back against the MRA, and I do respect your intention, but the fact is you do not speak for all of us.
Some of us don't consider those to be feminist issues. I for one consider them to be issues caused by men, against men, and therefore not something a feminist should be wasting time against.

Re: Hello, this is the previous poster, no longer an Anon

[(Anonymous)]

Jesus, you're as bad as MRA guys.

Re: Hello, this is the previous poster, no longer an Anon

[lynx]

That's cool too. There are more currents of Feminism than you can shake a cane to. We just participate in different ones.

As I've repeated ad nauseam in the thread, the Feminism I participate in is transversal and inclusive; and while keeps its focus in women (because is us women who take the brunt of the Patriarchy's bullshit), we have a broader approach. Personally, I wouldn't want to participate in Feminism that didn't discuss issues of class, queer studies, race and religion; and also wouldn't like to participate in a Feminism that treated individual men (not "The Men", just individuals who happen to be male) as the enemy instead of potential allies. Or, since the word "ally" has been hijacked to hell and back by straight people trying to steal the LGTB thunder towards their own agenda while congratulating themselves, I'll use the word "sidekick".

In this narrative of the Feminist Movement, women are the main characters. Sidekicks are helpers, not protagonists, and they shall be kept that way. But we still need them if we want to get shit done, because... well, they are half of the world's population. Education from the early years on is key, but even grown-up men can come to realize the cost of their privilege and join in. With adequate education, we can (and should!) incorporate feminist men into the movement.

Those aren't "issues caused by men" as if men were incorporeal-non-entities. Those are "issues caused by the Patriarchy" that cause harm to individuals. To tumble down the Patriarchy, we must fight against it as a whole, not cherry-pick the battles. It's like going against a hydra, see. But we can agree that, indeed, there are issues that must have priority over others. And those issues that must be prioritized... yes, they are the issues the Patriarchy makes women go through, and have to be fought against first, because the severity and harm they do puts them higher in the "to kill" list.