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fandomsecrets2013-09-23 06:59 pm
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[ SECRET POST #2456 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2456 ⌋
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[The Mortal Instruments]
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[Community]
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(Anonymous) 2013-09-24 05:29 am (UTC)(link)I... don't think there's anything wrong with being poor? My problem is with society judging me for who I am, not with failing to "act" rich or anything. I was just providing some context on the background of my upbringing it's just how I was raised. I find value in the lessons I learned growing up poor, and I would never erase that.
But another thing-- you don't seem to quite grasp what kinds of things we were taught to do or not do. It has nothing to do with "putting on airs", but more of like the internalized favoritism of the middle/upper classes.
For example: my local dialect has particular habits that strongly identify us as having grown up in this poor community. However, many of the older citizens of the community have been taught that this dialect is "wrong" and "lazy" and not "proper English", even though it's perfectly good English. It's just English with an extremely class and ethnically based origin (i.e. mostly Scottish and Irish).
In school and at home, we were taught to "speak properly", because otherwise we would sound low class, hickish, and uneducated. Of course, our speech patterns have and had nothing to do with our actual levels of education, just that the historical dialect belonged to under and working class people, rather than the educated "proper" dialect of the more affluent Anglo members of society who had a different dialect.
Please understand that when you speak like a hick, people don't think it's charming or interesting. They find it hard to understand at best, and at worst assume that you have all of the negative traits that go with that kind of hick culture.
And to be honest, it's nothing so overt as "why don't you like me for me" type of thing. It's the ingrained responses that people have, that they don't even realized they have.
It's also not just cultural differences, because they have huge impacts on quality of life. Growing up poor and underclass gave me a very classed based set of problems. When I went to college, none of the other people I met had parents who were alcoholics, and certainly none of their parents had drunk themselves to death; my mother had, and it was a fairly common problem where I grew up. None of the college kids I knew had developmental disabilities because of their mother drinking while they were pregnant; I did.
All of my peers had their biological parents. I don't, and where I come from it's not uncommon to know plenty of people who are foster kids, adopted, or some other arrangement. This kind of stuff really affects your life; it's not some abstract cultural difference that I can shrug off.
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(Anonymous) 2013-09-24 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)Middle class here. Expand "drunk herself to death" to "drunk and prescription pilled herself to death" and that's *exactly* how my mother died. (Coroner's verdict was something like death by accidental overdose complicated by alcohol poisoning; tox screen showed that she had nine different controlled substances in her body at time of death. There's a reason why none of us kids will touch a drop of alcohol to this day.) Please don't assume that substance abuse is a class-bound problem. It's not. :(
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(Anonymous) 2013-09-24 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)no subject
But obviously OP has learnt a completely different way of handling these substance abuses, it was talked about openly and more widely accepted, which is kind of the point. It's not an olympics.
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(Anonymous) 2013-09-24 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)"When I went to college, none of the other people I met had parents who were alcoholics, and certainly none of their parents had drunk themselves to death; my mother had, and it was a fairly common problem where I grew up."
Doesn't say that it was talked about freely and openly. Only says OP didn't know anyone with alcoholic parents. Doesn't mean that they didn't exist, OP just didn't know it.
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(Anonymous) 2013-09-24 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)Thanks for stepping in, this was indeed what I was trying to get at. Not that substance abuse problems don't exist and affect all classes, just that its prevalence and handling was completely different where I was from.
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