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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-25 07:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #2458 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2458 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Aneurin Barnard playing Richard III in The White Queen]


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03.
[Leverage]


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04.
[Pokemon]


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05.
[Discworld]


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06.
[legend of korra]


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07.
[The Young Protectors]


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08.
[Animal Crossing]


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09.
[Men in Black]


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10.
[The Rivers of London]


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11.
[Teen Wolf]


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12.
[Welcome to Night Vale]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 026 secrets from Secret Submission Post #351.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-26 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
I have a lot of complicated feelings regarding Peter/Thomas. On the one hand, I sort of ship them, because watching Nightingale perpetually trying to figure out how to react to Peter is one of my favourite parts of the books, and also because they have this mutual protective thing going on which is lovely (Peter when Thomas was shot, Thomas at the Nightclub of Dr Moreau).

On the other hand, the master/apprentice thing is usually a VERY big no-no for me, and while neither Thomas nor Peter are the kind of people to let the bad variations on it fly, there's still a lot of very complicated things happening between them stemming from the fact that Thomas is very old and very much a product of a different time, and Peter is constantly forcing him to confront his worldviews (and vice-versa, but it's more of a personal rather than an existential minefield on Thomas' end - not so much threatening his life as re-arranging his self-concept).

Also, the racial angle on it does get a little dodgy considering that Nightingale is Peter's more magically and politically powerful white superior officer, and also literally from the colonial period, if only the tail-end of it. Again, not that either of them would ever consciously let that fly, but between the chip on Peter's shoulder at times and the fact that Thomas doesn't always realise when he's being old-school about certain things, added to the way other people would view the relationship, there's a lot of potential for people to get hurt.

That said, one of the things I do love about Nightingale is that Peter does force him to consider his worldview, both in terms of magic what with Peter's love of scientific experimentation, and in terms of the way the modern world is no longer socially or technologically structured the way he still tends to think it is. The way the two of them are constantly re-evaluating everything they know because of each other is fantastic.

And, ah, the badass and slightly-to-majorly traumatised old veteran will never not push buttons for me. The memorial wall at the school did a number on me, yes. Put him in combo with the curious and street-smart young gun with a scientific bent, and yes, I will probably enjoy it.

TLDR; I broadly agree with this secret, mostly because a) if I said I didn't thoroughly enjoy the character I'd be lying, and b) about 60% of my enjoyment of Thomas Nightingale as a character comes from watching him trying to interact with the nerdy, mixed-race protagonist in question. On his own, he'd be significantly less interesting to me. And c) because considering them in a relationship is racially complicated no matter which side you come down on, especially when you add in the canon power imbalance.