[ SECRET POST #2460 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2460 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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05. [SPOILERS for something but OP did not say what]



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06. [SPOILERS for Dark Lord of Derkholm]



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11. [WARNING for suicide]



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12. [WARNING for depression, suicide]



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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Then they went a "fixed" her so she can go back to being a sex object for fanboys to jack it to.

/bitter cripple who looked up to this character :(

[(Anonymous)]

I still jacked off to her when she was Oracle. :(

[(Anonymous)]

Well of course they fixed her. Any one in her position would want to be fixed, and in the land of fictional characters, it was possible.

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, I'm the one in her position and I do not "need" to be "fixed". I'm fine the way I am and to say I'm less of a person than I could be just because I can't walk is disgustingly insulting. I live a full and happy life and they could have shown that rather than taking away something that made her unique in the world of DC.

[intrigueing]

But in the real world, it's not possible. Babs was someone who, when faced with the abrupt end of her life's calling due to disability, was able to have the determination and ingenuity to find a way to pursue it in a different fashion that worked around that disability. And while wish-fulfillment is great, wish-fulfillment that still allows the disability to exist is far more satisfying, especially when it's such a rarity in that genre. Like, for example, a lot of women have wish-fulfillment characters who are male, due in no small part to that fact that a male character doesn't have to deal with the stupid problems women do, and that's really pleasurable. But no woman wants to be told that they can only have wish-fulfillment characters who are male. By a similar token, wanting to be "fixed" is valid, but wanting to be awesome without being "fixed", or being told they need "fixing", is also valid, and far more comforting and inspiring.

Or even without the "relateable to people with disabilities" thing, it's just shoddy characterization. To draw a comparison, this wasn't the same as Batman recovering from getting his back broken. It was like Batman's parents coming back from the dead. Good for the character as a person, awful for the character as a character.

[(Anonymous)]

Babs was someone who, when faced with the abrupt end of her life's calling due to disability, was able to have the determination and ingenuity to find a way to pursue it in a different fashion that worked around that disability. And while wish-fulfillment is great, wish-fulfillment that still allows the disability to exist is far more satisfying, especially when it's such a rarity in that genre.

...To draw a comparison, this wasn't the same as Batman recovering from getting his back broken. It was like Batman's parents coming back from the dead.

This. These characters aren't perfect reflections of how people in the real world would behave any more than they are magical beings completely divorced from reality. They are not real people but they represent various aspects of real life. That means that sometimes we have to handwave the fact that characters may have problems that logically should not exist in their fictional world because otherwise we would lose the ability to represent those problems in that fictional world. Not every work of fiction needs to represent all people and all possible problems, but when you have a character who did represent a certain aspect of real life for a long time and that character gets changed so the problem is now gone, that's going to sting, no matter how much logical sense it makes in-universe.

[(Anonymous)]

Except IIRC Babs didn't want to get "fixed". Her stance was that until there was a publically available cure she would remain in the wheelchair. I don't know how they explained that away in the nu52, but originally Babs didn't want to take advantage of the magic and the super-tech she (or Batman) had access to because she was a superhero. And that made her even more awesome.

Ummmm not so much

[insanenoodlyguy]

That never, ever stopped us. Ever.



She even got used as a cheap slut!

Re: Ummmm not so much

[(Anonymous)]

A) Just goes to show, even a realistic portrayal of a physical disability will not stop comics from oversexualizing a female character. But in this case, I can't even be mad.

B) Oh my fucking god, Dick, you...dick.

Re: Ummmm not so much

[(Anonymous)]

A) Yeah, that's why that scene always had be confused. It's accurate for the most part and, yet...fab scene. I blinked a lot.

B) Ah, Dick. For one of the nicest, most helpful, most supportive and most crucial characters in the DCU he could really, REALLY be an ass sometimes, especially when he was having a crisis. Which is why I always shipped him with Roy, because I figured Roy would just punch him in the face for shit like this, then go play with Lian and shrug it off.