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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-29 03:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2462 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2462 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-29 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, words mean things, and maybe writers should use them correctly. And if they're using an incorrect word, maybe they should actually look up the right one instead of getting shirty about it. "Flash" is hardly an uncommon term.

I like what the anon above said about sonnets. From wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_fiction): Flash fiction is a style of fictional literature or fiction of extreme brevity. There is no widely accepted definition of the length of the category. Some self-described markets for flash fiction impose caps as low as three hundred words, while others consider stories as long as a thousand words to be flash fiction.

So, there you go. You already have a word that means a non-specific but very short length; you don't need to grab another word that does mean a specific length.

Pedantic anon is pedantic, and I don't care.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-29 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
True, but "drabble" is an internet made word, while sonnet has an accepted definition in real life. One isn't comparable to the other.
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[personal profile] dancing_serpent 2013-09-29 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Drabble has an accepted definition in real life, too. It's just a whole lot younger. *g*

(Anonymous) 2013-09-29 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
So... fandom words aren't "real" words.

Good to know. I'll start redefining "slash" to mean "any pairing" now. Or maybe start referring to male-bonding fics as "slash."

Gee, I wonder how that will go over.

DA

(Anonymous) 2013-09-29 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
That's ridiculously pendantic. If you start talking about slash in a non-fandom setting, will people know what you're talking about or will you sound like a serial killer?

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2013-09-29 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less."

It was ridiculous when Humpty Dumpty said it. It is no less ridiculous today.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-29 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
"slash" did mean "any pairing" once upon a time. The "slash" comes from, well, the slash in between, say, "Kirk/Spock."

It just so happened that way back when, folks were writing a lot more kirk/spock than kirk/uhura.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-30 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
Nope, that's incorrect. From the beginning it meant same-sex pairings.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-29 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
hey guess what

writers have been redefining words for over a thousand years :)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-29 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, then I demand you submit your writer card for processing. Only those who've published original fiction and been touted as a literary mastermind may apply.

(Yeah, Shakespeare redefined and made-up words, but you ain't he. Stick to the definition, asswipe.)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-29 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
oh I am so very sorry

I did not mean writer in the sense of "one who has published original fiction and been touted as a literary mastermind" but, y'know, the actual original meaning of "one who writes"

anyone who writes can change the definition of a word

anyone who speaks can change the definition of a word

all that is required beyond that is consensus

and I hate to break it to you, sweetheart, but there are multiple consensuses on the word "drabble," so kindly take your pedantry and linguistic ignorance and shove it :)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-29 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
You can make up words all you like, but if you want people to take you seriously? You need some pull, ~*~*sweetheart*~*~. Nobody cares what idiocy you get up to in your own private life.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-29 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
psst

read frindle by andrew clements

and get over yourself, you poor pitiable prescriptivist :)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-30 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
The word "albeit" comes from peasants. Peasants. You think they had shit for "pull?" No. They didn't.

But, thing is, you pathetic fucks posting fanfiction on the internet and making up asinine distinctions for different types of said fanfiction have even less pull than did those peasants. You're a tiny fucking minority that exists in a cultural backwater, and to declare that anyone who calls him/herself a "writer" needs to know about all of your terms is base self-aggrandizement.

I know you want to think that you're important, but you're not. You're not even a blip on the screen, and you're no more a fucking writer than my cat. You and your lot have no cause to even consider demanding that you be taken seriously, let alone clout to determine whether or not others should be taken seriously. Your slang is not universal, nor should it be.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-30 11:11 am (UTC)(link)
Anon, are you drunk?

(Anonymous) 2013-09-30 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. +1000000000000000

This needs to be framed.

With anything in internet fandom having such a short half life, no one in it can stand to leave a lasting impression.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-09-30 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
Did you know "LOL" is now officially in the dictionary? It may take a while, but the new words and alternative meanings invented online can become official.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-30 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
What I find interesting is that I very rarely see anyone on Tumblr, the big thing these days, using LOL. It may be in the dictionary, but it's dated.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-09-30 12:23 pm (UTC)(link)
That ends up saying even more about language - if it's held on long enough to get in the official dictionary, then it's dead. Dictionaries are graveyards for dead words.

Which means "drabble" is still a living word, since it still gets debated over exactly what it means.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-30 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
You need some pull, ~*~*sweetheart*~*~. Nobody cares what idiocy you get up to in your own private life.

Oh, ~*~*honey~*~*, I just looove these little pedantic shit driblets of negative motivation. As if someone important keeled over and made you arbiter of how people think.

You always hear some story about someone who's faced a lot of detractors, nay sayers, before their idea gets a breakthrough. You're one of that faceless crowd.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-30 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh for Godssake. Do you have any idea how stupid you sound? As though ANYBODY besides shitty fanfic writers give a crap about this. This is why people avoid that garbage.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-09-30 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
The problem with being pedantic in Fandom is that all too often Fandom does not give a shit about exact terminology, unless it's their own terminology.

"Flash Fiction" sounds to me like a term invented in literary circles, not Fandom circles, so Fandom is far more likely to ignore it in favour of other terms that may not be exact, but are damn common in Fandom circles.

I would say the Fandom equivalent of "Flash Fiction" is "ficlet".