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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-05 03:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2468 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-10-05 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
They really didn't remake it, though! All it really takes from WoK is the character of Khan and the one iconic moment. If you look at the plot, it's way closer to Undiscovered Country than to Wrath of Khan (although not close enough that I'd necessarily call it a remake of TUC).

Which in some ways just makes it worse that they took that scene and tried to jam it in there.
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[personal profile] sootyowl 2013-10-05 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
You're right it wasn't a remake per say, which reinforces that they shouldn't have used Khan as the big bag at all. It doesn't make sense that Khan was in the reboot.

Which in some ways just makes it worse that they took that scene and tried to jam it in there.

IA. They just wanted to create the movie magic of the past so they shoehorned that scene in there. The only reason I bought it a bit was because I like Pine and Quinto as Kirk and Spock. The writing was terrible for Into Darkness.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-06 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
It's a remake, and it's a rip-off. Deal with it.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-06 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Man, this comment is really confusing me right now. Why are you telling me to deal with it? Do you think I have some kind of emotional investment on the question of whether it's a remake? Why would I? I just don't think it's actually that close to Wrath of Khan.

I kind of feel like you might be reading my post as a defense of STID? It's really not. I didn't really like the movie. I just think it's derivative of one movie and also stole something from another movie, instead of thinking it's a ripoff of one movie. That's not really to its credit.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-06 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
It really is a remake, and it's a rip-off. Deal with it.
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[personal profile] abharding 2013-10-06 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
When a friend asked me to describe the film (without spoiling it) I said they took components of two of the Classic Trek movies and shook well. (And the result was a bit of mess.)

I said up thread - if they wanted to have a tribute scene it would have been much better to use the last scene form Amok Time. A delighted "Jim!!!" would have worked so much better than what we got.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-06 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah but nobody recognizes that except Trek nerds who are going to see the movie no matter what (or not see it no matter what) so they'd never use it.

You're right, though, it would have been way better.