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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-05 03:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2468 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2468 ⌋

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[personal profile] bur 2013-10-05 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Except Kirk was deliberately being hammy to try and make Kahn think he'd lost his ever-lovin' mind. Spock meant it in STID, which makes it far far far more cheesy in context. At least to me.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2013-10-05 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
No, Kirk is jut plain hammy, the product of a guy who gruesomely playacted corkscrewing someone to death on live television (although to be fair, it was live television and the prop guy forgot to plant the knife in the secret compartment book.)

(Anonymous) 2013-10-06 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah...William Shatner probably would have made the scene hammy even if it was meant to be a legitimately tear-jerking.

But it wasn't.

There are many, many scenes in Star Trek where you can laugh at Shatner's acting. The "Khaaaaaan!" scene really isn't one of them. He has a reason for saying it like that. It makes sense in context. It isn't just Shatner being a bad actor.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2013-10-06 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
But it was meant to be legitimately tear-jerking unless you want to do something colossally stupid like spoiling the dramatic tension of the scene by viewing the narrative out of sequence. Both audience AND Khan are supposed to interpret that scene at face value as it comes. The big reveal that he's lying comes later.

And of course, Kirk deceiving by chewing the scenery only works because Kirk chews the scenery almost as frequently as Bones. In the mouth of another captain, attempting to flatter Khan with a yell of impotent rage probably wouldn't work.
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[personal profile] abharding 2013-10-06 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Also Kirk was trying to convince Kahn that he and the others were stuck wh0ere they were for days rather then hours (and the the Enterprise was more damaged then it actually was). Also Kirk was always more emotive than Spock was. He could get away with something like that...not so Spock.

That said, if they were going to rip off a scene from Classic Trek it would have been better to use the last scene form Amok Time - where we see Spock's utter joy at seeing Jim alive and well in McCoy's sick-bay.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-06 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
That said, if they were going to rip off a scene from Classic Trek it would have been better to use the last scene form Amok Time - where we see Spock's utter joy at seeing Jim alive and well in McCoy's sick-bay.

Aww, that would have been cute. <3